Coronavirus outbreak

[Edwardoka]

Sharing NHS data with the police! This does nothing to lessen my feeling that the NHS bit of NHS test and trace is nothing but instrumentalisation. A brand reappropriated.

It's ok, let me put your fears to bed.


I mean, this isn't the test and trace app, but who wouldn't want to personally enrich the Camerons?

 

[mjr]

Andy Burnham is not the best person with health matters he was hopeless health sec. Mid Staff's was on his watch

That wasn't true the last time you posted it and it's still not.

 

[MarkF]

I do wish that middle age doctors/professors/scientists with long and distinguished careers behind them, wouldn't be censored so much, it's diffcult to keep up. No wonder we are in such a mess and testing (pointlessly) perfectly healthy people in the search for a second wave to perpetuate what is now, a colossal fraud. A while ago I'd have accepted that the goverments response was (just about) understandabe, but not now, I hope some (Hancock, Whitty & Vallance for starters) face criminal prosecutions, they have deliberately misled people and wilfully caused so much damage, they have to be held to account.

I was going to link to a blistering article by Dr Mike Yeadon aimed at Chris Whitty (who's been refusing to acknowledge any questions for months), I read it this morning, now it's gone, I am surprised he still has a Twitter account....for now.

The NHS is not going to be overwhelmed, nor come anywhere near to be being so. There's been no excess deaths for nearly 4 months, no second wave will occur no matter how hard the government tries to find one and (generally) admissions are totally different to what they were in Spring. Admissions v discharges?

 

[Julia9054]

There's been no excess deaths for nearly 4 months,

Excess deaths for week ending 2nd October 4.2% higher than previous 5 year average.
Edit: England and Wales

 

[tom73]

Distinguished like the same ones who signed The Great Barrington Declaration ?
Charged under which law and by who ?
As it has been explained many times it's not as simple as admissions v discharge. (what ever the latter means is debatable) Or deaths today or the next as the ones we are seeing now are not due to cases now but from a weeks before.

 

[IaninSheffield]

I was going to link to a blistering article by Dr Mike Yeadon aimed at Chris Whitty (who's been refusing to acknowledge any questions for months), I read it this morning, now it's gone, I am surprised he still has a Twitter account....for now.

Could you point to Mike Yeadon's Twitter account? I'm struggling to find it. Thx.

 

[classic33]

Could you point to Mike Yeadon's Twitter account? I'm struggling to find it. Thx.

Try

 

[classic33]

I do wish that middle age doctors/professors/scientists with long and distinguished careers behind them, wouldn't be censored so much, it's diffcult to keep up. No wonder we are in such a mess and testing (pointlessly) perfectly healthy people in the search for a second wave to perpetuate what is now, a colossal fraud. A while ago I'd have accepted that the goverments response was (just about) understandabe, but not now, I hope some (Hancock, Whitty & Vallance for starters) face criminal prosecutions, they have deliberately misled people and wilfully caused so much damage, they have to be held to account.

I was going to link to a blistering article by Dr Mike Yeadon aimed at Chris Whitty (who's been refusing to acknowledge any questions for months), I read it this morning, now it's gone, I am surprised he still has a Twitter account....for now.

The NHS is not going to be overwhelmed, nor come anywhere near to be being so. There's been no excess deaths for nearly 4 months, no second wave will occur no matter how hard the government tries to find one and (generally) admissions are totally different to what they were in Spring. Admissions v discharges?

Your link is ten years out of date.

 

[tom73]

Try

Oh look a star grade crank. He’s got some great supporters inc Toby young.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Have a theory.

Ignore anyone who disagrees.

Search round the internet for anyone to agree.

Claim that validates your theory.

Now that's how to do proper research.

 

[IaninSheffield]

Try

That's the one I found too, but making statements such as:

But have you read my latest paper? PLEASE DO. https://lockdownsceptics.org/what-sage-got-wrong/… Please check my mini bio on the first page. Then this very flattering piece from the former world wide head of R&D at the then biggest...

or

I’m so disappointed in doctors simply folding like a cheap suit when threatened. I quit a pharma job, company car level, at 31, after encountering fraud in research, as only breadwinner & with a few months old prem baby.

... would (should?) immediately raise alarm bells in terms of credibility. Surely?
As for 'my latest paper' <my emphasis btw> - it's, erm ... not exactly a peer-reviewed academic article. His 'latest paper' (according to his Linkedin profile) is from 2012.

 

[classic33]

Welsh 17 day lockdown announced.

Ireland to go to Level Five, nationwide.

 

[mjr]

How one case led to 56 because someone didn't quarantine on entering the country and someone didn't quarantine while waiting for test results:
https://www.thejournal.ie/man-failed-restrict-movements-56-cases-5237110-Oct2020/

 

[mjr]

Ireland to go to Level Five, nationwide.

Expected but not yet announced, is it?

Level five in Ireland is almost lockdown again. Here's a summary https://www.thejournal.ie/heres-are...d-level-5-covid-restrictions-5236814-Oct2020/

Meanwhile, bars and restaurants in Belgium are now closed for a month, and courts have struck down a bar curfew in Berlin.

 

[alicat]

no second wave will occur no matter how hard the government tries to find one

So what is this Tory government's agenda in trying to find one if it doesn't exist @MarkF?