Coronavirus outbreak

[DaveReading]

New ONS figures are not looking good. They show Covid now in 1 in 500 households. Up from 1 in 900 last week

So the number of households that were newly infected last week was almost as high as the total number that had been previously infected ?

Bloody hell.

 

[midlife]

New ONS figures are not looking good. They show Covid now in 1 in 500 households. Up from 1 in 900 last week

Is that 1 in 500 people ? if so then there are more people than households which makes it worse?

 

[marinyork]

Is that 1 in 500 people ? if so then there are more people than households which makes it worse?

1 in 500 people. Around 9,600 infections per day.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26

 

[tom73]

Yes people was going on early reporting that interrupted it as households.
London now on the watch list as cases up, admissions up, ICU number up.
3 new areas in Wales going into local restrictions and Leeds is expecting the same some time today.

 

[marinyork]

Is it really necessary to clog up this thread with these silly personal jibes?

The problem with cyclechat is that the last ten years there are a lot of extremely high paid people in jobs who are worshipped as Gods and they think that in the rest of their lives, family, friends and random strangers on cyclechat should treat them the same with the same awe and reverence as they get in their day jobs. They also think they can throw their weight around. I'm not going to treat him as a God if he's being deliberately patronising. I did politely try to explain 3x one of the points and each time it was ignored and deliberately misrepresented with a ah yes, but I'm really fecking clever as I'm in a senior high tech job and I'm going to assume you know nothing.

Knobbery and knavery.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Everything looking increasingly grim.

Lest anyone try to claim this couldn't have been predicted, from yours truly, dated Aug 28th:

Currently our case numbers have been rising week on week for some time.

I hear on the radio that govt are going to run an advertising campaign to get people back to offices due to the effect of low foot fall on city centres.

But surely, if cases are rising, we need to take action to reduce transmission, not actions which will increase it, particularly with the return of schools too. I genuinely don't understand govt strategy.

And here we are.

It takes far longer to reduce cases than for them to rise. The last month has been a complete policy clusterfùck, so now we're condemned to yet another unnecessarily long prolonged period of restrictions.

And many more corpses.

And more bankruptcies and redundancies.

The useless narcissists, ideologues and dilettantes in charge of this would hang their heads in shame, if they were capable of such feelings.

Get the farking test and trace system working. FFS!!

 

[Low Gear Guy]

It is now too late to stop the second phase and I am not expecting things to permanently improve before Easter. In the meantime we should all keep healthy, help others and reduce our social interactions to the point just above where we go mad.

There was a window of opportunity in the summer to prepare for this but the government was on holiday at the time.

 

[Mo1959]

Maybe it would be better just to let all the fit and healthy students get Covid and be done with......sort of mini herd immunity, then when it comes to end of term they will be safe to visit home knowing they have had it. Even then, it’s still not obvious how long immunity lasts for

 

[mjr]

The useless narcissists, ideologues and dilettantes in charge

But "the conservative and unionist party" sounds so much snappier!

In the meantime we should all keep healthy, help others and reduce our social interactions to the point just above where we go mad.

Ah whoops. So that's what I've been doing wrong

 

[mjr]

Maybe it would be better just to let all the fit and healthy students get Covid and be done with......sort of mini herd immunity, then when it comes to end of term they will be safe to visit home knowing they have had it. Even then, it’s still not obvious how long immunity lasts for

Or the extent of immunity against different strains.

Or how many survive the 28 days but suffer long covid complications.

Or shed loads of other unknowns.

Plus when we're dealing with thousands (millions?) of students, even a fraction of a percent deaths is a big number.

It would be a very high risk strategy for an uncertain reward compared to control, treatment and delay until a vaccine.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Maybe it would be better just to let all the fit and healthy students get Covid and be done with......sort of mini herd immunity, then when it comes to end of term they will be safe to visit home knowing they have had it. Even then, it’s still not obvious how long immunity lasts for

If they could be kept separate from more vulnerable folks there’s something in that. It’s keeping separate is the issue, and you can’t hold them prisoner.

 

[tom73]

Maybe it would be better just to let all the fit and healthy students get Covid and be done with......sort of mini herd immunity, then when it comes to end of term they will be safe to visit home knowing they have had it. Even then, it’s still not obvious how long immunity lasts for

Not sure that's what they paid to go to uni for. Don't think any uni ran the "come to use and catch a high infectious , unpredictable deadly disease" advertising campaign. Even mild cases can go to develop Long Covid and be effected for mouths. Some are now into 6 mouths of suffering. We still don't know what the long term health effects of covid are. It's still possible that some the current students will require hospital admission. That won't come clear until each case get's to around day 12 and possible death around a month later.
The bottom line is sadly community transmissions don't stay put and will become wide spread.

 

[tom73]

Calling HCP's online self-study course on covid-19 recovery and rehabilitation now available.
https://www.e-lfh.org.uk/programmes/covid-19-recovery-and-rehabilitation/

 

[Rezillo]

There was a window of opportunity in the summer to prepare for this but the government was on holiday at the time.

I could scream. The summer breather was bought at huge personal and financial cost but the government has utterly blown the time it was given.

 

[tom73]

I could scream. The summer breather was bought at huge personal and financial cost but the government has utterly blown the time it was given.

Tell me about it remind me how long did the clowns in the big top get for summer jollies ? All that work and effect all that loss of life and for what ?