Coronavirus outbreak

[postman]

Right then that's subways hearty Italian bread off my sandwich list.a bit of mundane news.I am using my pad while I lay in bed.how about that then.

 

[kingrollo]

I agree. The US with no national health service is going to be exposed.
Where’s the testing and coordination going to come from. We don’t realise how good the NHS is, and it’s free. Hopefully this will scupper and talk of privatisation. How would a privatised health service manage this?

More cheaply and with a lower survival rate.

None of the above will cause a die hard Tory to flinch at selling off sections of the NHS.

 

[slowmotion]

More cheaply and with a lower survival rate.

None of the above will cause a die hard Tory to flinch at selling off sections of the NHS.

I don't think anybody expected COVID-19 to mutate so quickly into virulent rants about The Nasty Party.

 

[RecordAceFromNew]

Hand washing is the most effective way to slow things down. Which then allow's for a steady and well managed move to the next stage without having to do as some counties have been forced to do. Which is go from minor steps to major ones in a one massive leap.

How is washing hands while singing Happy Birthday going to help Pat below?

Today in Rutherglen (South Lanarkshire), the local shopping centre was out of toilet paper, hand sanitizer has been unavailable since last week.
And yet, I have been sneezed at, coughed at, had a woman coming up to the counter with a runny nose, no attempt to stop themselves spreading whatever they have got ... meh!

Or all the crowds everywhere, in schools, offices, shops, trains, buses, hospitals... People are within 3 feet of each other all the time, none wearing any PPE.

The number infected in UK is already increasing exponentially, I am happy to stick my neck out and predict we will hit a thousand IDENTIFIED before this time next week, with the actual number a lot higher - not least because symptoms only appear 5 to 6 days after catching it. For example, the rapid exponential growth only slowed down 10 days after lockdown at Daegu. Without social distancing, we will be where Italy is today in around two weeks.

 

[Blue Hills]

My brother (who is in the pharma industry) said that testing without medical insurance cost $800+. People without insurance are probably the people most likely not to be able to afford such costly tests.

Yes, as a bod said on the bbc (a us person i think) the virus doesn't choose between folk with and without insurance.
I trust the US insured will feel suitably secure surrounded by their fellow citizens with and without insurance.
But let's look forward at least to an increasingly mad-dog trump.

 

[Levo-Lon]

I don't think anybody expected COVID-19 to mutate so quickly into virulent rants about The Nasty Party.

Indeed, only yesterday waank McDonell said don't let spending be cancelled due to covid-19... consistent as usual

 

[tom73]

How is washing hands while singing Happy Birthday going to help Pat below?



Or all the crowds everywhere, in schools, offices, shops, trains, buses, hospitals... People are within 3 feet of each other all the time, none wearing any PPE.

The number infected in UK is already increasing exponentially, I am happy to stick my neck out and predict we will hit a thousand IDENTIFIED before this time next week, with the actual number a lot higher - not least because symptoms only appear 5 to 6 days after catching it. For example, the rapid exponential growth only slowed down 10 days after lockdown at Daegu. Without social distancing, we will be where Italy is today in around two weeks.

Read what I and others have said go into lock down early and all we do is kick the can down the road.Locking everyone away for weeks is will not make this go away like magic. For part of today I'm over seeing a mock exam. For 2 hours I'm in room with over 200 Students. Will I be wearing gloves , apron and mask ? ... No PPE for most is just a waste of time again many on here have tried to explain why. Will I be washing my hands before, after and before food.....Yes during the exam will I be using the hand gel .... Yes. Will I be coughing all over the place... No. Will I stand in the corner in fear of everyone ... No. I'd have to stand next to ever student or staff member a 15 mins minimum. To risk anything.

We can either listen to advice or carry on and panic buy bog roll. A measured approach is all the only way to deal with this. How some of this county would cope if they had to deal with infectious conditions as part of a day job god knows.

 

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[Rocky]

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[kingrollo]

Read what I and others have said go into lock down early and all we do is kick the can down the road.Locking everyone away for weeks is will not make this go away like magic. For part of today I'm over seeing a mock exam. For 2 hours I'm in room with over 200 Students. Will I be wearing gloves , apron and mask ? ... No PPE for most is just a waste of time again many on here have tried to explain why. Will I be washing my hands before, after and before food.....Yes during the exam will I be using the hand gel .... Yes. Will I be coughing all over the place... No. Will I stand in the corner in fear of everyone ... No. I'd have to stand next to ever student or staff member a 15 mins minimum. To risk anything.

We can either listen to advice or carry on and panic buy bog roll. A measured approach is all the only way to deal with this. How some of this county would cope if they had to deal with infectious conditions as part of a day job god knows.

China seem to have had some success with the lock down. I wonder what would have happened if they had done it earlier?

Lets hope the lock down in Italy does work.

Personally I would have thought doing the lock down earlier would be better than waiting until things got really bad.

 

[vickster]

China seem to have had some success with the lock down. I wonder what would have happened if they had done it earlier?

Lets hope the lock down in Italy does work.

Personally I would have thought doing the lock down earlier would be better than waiting until things got really bad.

Are you staying home now?

 

[Dave7]

When you mentioned this earlier today, I thought it wouldn't possibly happen. Now it has. Wow.

I know this is the least of all concerns, but myself and my wife have said for over 10 years that we should visit Rome. We finally got around to booking the plane tickets last December. For mid-April.....

Our SiLs family (not him) are there now. Why thy hell they went knowing it was going to hit the fan is beyond me.
If its on lock down does that mean they (and other holiday makers) are stuck there??
EDIT.... I HAVE JUST READ THIS ARTICLE.
Those who have to leave their region or their cities out of serious necessity can do so only if they have self-certification stating that they must cross the borders for compelling business reasons, health reasons, or because they have to return home.

 

[kingrollo]

Are you staying home now?

No - I have to work.

 

[derrick]

I don't think anybody expected COVID-19 to mutate so quickly into virulent rants about The Nasty Party.

I was suprised it did not start sooner

 

[nickyboy]

China seem to have had some success with the lock down. I wonder what would have happened if they had done it earlier?

Lets hope the lock down in Italy does work.

Personally I would have thought doing the lock down earlier would be better than waiting until things got really bad.

Help me to understand your position. You want to lock down the whole of the UK now. Is that right?
There is no hotspot in UK so partial lockdown (like Daegu in SK or Hubei in PRC) isn't of any use.
The science suggests that full lockdown isn't the right approach given where UK is in the epidemic cycle. Too much negative and not enough positive. That may change of course. I hope all the lessons learned in SK (which seems to have prevented an Italy situation) can be replicated here