Coronavirus outbreak

[Rusty Nails]

The authorities are hardly giving anyone much of an incentive are they? "give us your details so if anyone near you has caught the virus we can order you to stay in, not go out, not go to work, possibly not earn any money for two weeks, and we haven't got anything we can give you to treat the virus with anyway" is not really selling it to me.....

What would really sell it to you?

I suspect that you will never buy it, no matter how good the sales pitch.

 

[marinyork]

68, was that Nixon?

Yeah the southern strategy, something which realigned US politics for a generation and caused a lot of damage. Just like Trump, Nixon probably didn't really believe in the things he stoked up, he just didn't care as it got him into office.

 

[SkipdiverJohn]

......if you followed the guidance and social distanced, you wouldn't catch Covid and need treatment!! You haven't really thought this through, have you?

Completely impractical. Most people need to go out to work and earn a living, keep themselves supplied with food, and do a whole host of other activities. Start living in the real world, not your middle class fantasy one. Some contact with other people and physical objects that might be infected with the virus is unavoidable, and some people are going to get it no matter what.
You may be able to work from home, get all your shopping delivered, do everything via a computer screen, but there are millions of people who need to work to eat and need to be physically present at a location to do their job.

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

FCO currently advising against all non-essential travel to Spain. I think that means travel insurance is void. https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain

 

[Rocky]

Completely impractical. Most people need to go out to work and earn a living, keep themselves supplied with food, and do a whole host of other activities. Start living in the real world, not your middle class fantasy one. Some contact with other people and physical objects that might be infected with the virus is unavoidable, and some people are going to get it no matter what.
You may be able to work from home, get all your shopping delivered, do everything via a computer screen, but there are millions of people who need to work to eat and need to be physically present at a location to do their job.

You were talking about drinking in a pub and not socially distancing from other drinkers....and not caring. I'm happy to talk about work if you want....I have two HCPs in my immediate family, I am the carer for my elderly mother. Cut the class gibes.

 

[cookiemonster]

Would you sooner trust Hillary "I accidentally deleted 33,000 dodgy emails" Clinton, or Joe "not sure what day of the week it is" Biden? Trump is a flawed character without question, but the alternatives are far worse from where I'm standing.

Hilary Clinton gave evidence to a hearing for 11 hours and they found no evidence of that. Trump used his lickspittles in the GOP to ban all evidence and witnesses for his impeachment trial. You tell me who’s more guilty.

Biden’s worse than Trump? You need to have a word with the voices in your head if you really believe that.

 

[raleighnut]

What would really sell it to you?

I suspect that you will never buy it, no matter how good the sales pitch.

I dunno he fell 'hook line and sinker' for leaving the EU.

Yeah the southern strategy, something which realigned US politics for a generation and caused a lot of damage. Just like Trump, Nixon probably didn't really believe in the things he stoked up, he just didn't care as it got him into office.

Franks comments,


View: https://youtu.be/c2ILDPu_6JI

 

[Adam4868]

Trump is Putin's play thing at best...even he was shocked when he actually won !
I'm with Skip on this now...how are you meant to stay indoors when a pint is 1.29 at spoons

 

[marinyork]

Trump is Putin's play thing at best...even he was shocked when he actually won !
I'm with Skip on this now...how are you meant to stay indoors when a pint is 1.29 at spoons

View: https://youtu.be/LNK430YOiT4

 

[cookiemonster]

Well let's look at how moronic his achievements have been to date. He's built a multi-billion dollar real estate empire. He took on and beat the longstanding political establishment for the presidential candidacy in his own party. Then he took on and beat the political establishment to win the actual presidency, against the conventional wisdom. Whilst Trump might ruffle a lot of feathers, he is anything but a moron. He knows exactly what he's doing. The Democrat politicians who are currently sitting back and allowing a state of riotous anarchy to exist on the streets of multiple cities are just giving him a helping hand!

Yes, let’s look at these achievements. Five times bankrupt, including a casino where you have people lining up to hand you their money, made the swamp even swampier, told 20,000 plus lies, has 17 other investigations into his businesses, was fined 2 million $ as his ‘charity’ wasn’t a charity, right up Putin’s backside, admired authoritarians, doesn’t pay tax, his actions have killed 140,000 Americans, mocked a disabled journalist, recommends people ingest bleach, plays more golf than professional golfers (and cheats there too), is a known sexual predator, functionally illiterate. I could go on but let’s stop there.

 

[SkipdiverJohn]

What would really sell it to you?

That's easy to answer; a guarantee of being promptly compensated by the government, for 100% of lost earnings whilst being told to self-isolate and unable to go out to work, so the person "doing the right thing" is not left financially disadvantaged for doing so. I'd have no reason not to co-operate in that case, and would not be worse off for so doing.

 

[cookiemonster]

The authorities are hardly giving anyone much of an incentive are they? "give us your details so if anyone near you has caught the virus we can order you to stay in, not go out, not go to work, possibly not earn any money for two weeks, and we haven't got anything we can give you to treat the virus with anyway" is not really selling it to me.....

So how does being hooked up to a ventilator after infecting your family sound?

 

[cookiemonster]

No his Father built up the property empire then gifted it to his kids and various 'trusts' in order to avoid income tax, if you're gonna idolise the feckwit at least have some grasp on the truth.

Apparently, him and his genetically weird family avoided $1 billion in tax that way.

 

[cookiemonster]

Completely impractical. Most people need to go out to work and earn a living, keep themselves supplied with food, and do a whole host of other activities. Start living in the real world, not your middle class fantasy one. Some contact with other people and physical objects that might be infected with the virus is unavoidable, and some people are going to get it no matter what.
You may be able to work from home, get all your shopping delivered, do everything via a computer screen, but there are millions of people who need to work to eat and need to be physically present at a location to do their job.

Strange how right wingers always shout that everyone bar them do not live in the real world.

 

[raleighnut]

Apparently, him and his genetically weird family avoided $1 billion in tax that way.

Yep.