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MntnMan62

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Oh for crying out loud! :eek:

America has two pandemics, Covid and stupidity.

The pandemic has been around since the beginning of this year. But the stupidity has been around for at least 3 1/2 years but some would argue the stupidity really began when Republicans announced the day after Obama won the election that they would do everything possible to prevent Obama from passing any legislation. So sheer stupidity for 8 1/2 years. I think the US is done. I don't think it will survive even one term of this lunatic. The damage he's done is insurmountable. Just my opinion as I see it.
 

SkipdiverJohn

Deplorable Brexiteer
Location
London
But the stupidity has been around for at least 3 1/2 years but some would argue the stupidity really began when Republicans announced the day after Obama won the election that they would do everything possible to prevent Obama from passing any legislation.

Anyone would think these tactics are new the way you're carrying on. All political groupings do their level best to frustrate the plans and policies of their opponents, and always have done. The difference with Trump is he hasn't signed up to the previous cross-party consensus that globalisation was OK, the EU were OK, and China should have a blind eye turned to its nefarious activities just so long as it kept churning out cheap goods for the West to buy. He's been the one to think the unthinkable, and say the unsayable. History I believe, will show Trump to have been on the right side of the argument in many things, even if his loud and brash style is very un-presidential by the accepted norms.
Far from being "finished", I believe the US will be in a stronger position going forward, by seeking to weaken China by projecting it as a pariah state, and the US makes it abundantly clear who it thinks it's friends are, and equally plain who it's friends aren't. Love him or loathe him, everyone knows where they stand with Trump, it makes a refreshing change from the usual "be nice to people you really can't stand but slag them off in private", two-faced style politics. You'd be surprised just how many Brits are actually big fans of Trump and his adversarial, couldn't give a toss what anyone outside the US thinks, way of doing things. I know several who would vote for Trump, but none that would trust that senile old duffer Biden.
 

raleighnut

Legendary Member
Anyone would think these tactics are new the way you're carrying on. All political groupings do their level best to frustrate the plans and policies of their opponents, and always have done. The difference with Trump is he hasn't signed up to the previous cross-party consensus that globalisation was OK, the EU were OK, and China should have a blind eye turned to its nefarious activities just so long as it kept churning out cheap goods for the West to buy. He's been the one to think the unthinkable, and say the unsayable. History I believe, will show Trump to have been on the right side of the argument in many things, even if his loud and brash style is very un-presidential by the accepted norms.
Far from being "finished", I believe the US will be in a stronger position going forward, by seeking to weaken China by projecting it as a pariah state, and the US makes it abundantly clear who it thinks it's friends are, and equally plain who it's friends aren't. Love him or loathe him, everyone knows where they stand with Trump, it makes a refreshing change from the usual "be nice to people you really can't stand but slag them off in private", two-faced style politics. You'd be surprised just how many Brits are actually big fans of Trump and his adversarial, couldn't give a toss what anyone outside the US thinks, way of doing things. I know several who would vote for Trump, but none that would trust that senile old duffer Biden.
A tax dodging self publicist, i'm not surprised you're a fan. :laugh:
 

SkipdiverJohn

Deplorable Brexiteer
Location
London
A tax dodging self publicist, i'm not surprised you're a fan. :laugh:


Would you sooner trust Hillary "I accidentally deleted 33,000 dodgy emails" Clinton, or Joe "not sure what day of the week it is" Biden? Trump is a flawed character without question, but the alternatives are far worse from where I'm standing.
 

Rocky

Hello decadence
Would you sooner trust Hillary "I accidentally deleted 33,000 dodgy emails" Clinton, or Joe "not sure what day of the week it is" Biden? Trump is a flawed character without question, but the alternatives are far worse from where I'm standing.
LOL ..... you know nothing about either of them other than the stuff you read from your dodgy Facebook friends. Those two descriptions are pure fantasy and bordering on libellous.

Person, woman, man, camera, TV - you get extra points if you say them in the correct order :laugh:
 
LOL ..... you know nothing about either of them other than the stuff you read from your dodgy Facebook friends. Those two descriptions and pure fantasy and bordering on libellous.

He heard that from Trump's camp. And they invented fake news.
 

MntnMan62

Über Member
Location
Northern NJ
Anyone would think these tactics are new the way you're carrying on. All political groupings do their level best to frustrate the plans and policies of their opponents, and always have done. The difference with Trump is he hasn't signed up to the previous cross-party consensus that globalisation was OK, the EU were OK, and China should have a blind eye turned to its nefarious activities just so long as it kept churning out cheap goods for the West to buy. He's been the one to think the unthinkable, and say the unsayable. History I believe, will show Trump to have been on the right side of the argument in many things, even if his loud and brash style is very un-presidential by the accepted norms.
Far from being "finished", I believe the US will be in a stronger position going forward, by seeking to weaken China by projecting it as a pariah state, and the US makes it abundantly clear who it thinks it's friends are, and equally plain who it's friends aren't. Love him or loathe him, everyone knows where they stand with Trump, it makes a refreshing change from the usual "be nice to people you really can't stand but slag them off in private", two-faced style politics. You'd be surprised just how many Brits are actually big fans of Trump and his adversarial, couldn't give a toss what anyone outside the US thinks, way of doing things. I know several who would vote for Trump, but none that would trust that senile old duffer Biden.

What's interesting about everything you've said is that it's all talk. drumpf hasn't accomplished one single thing that you are giving him credit for. There is no trade deal with China. China continues to churn out cheap stuff and the West continues to buy the stuff. And it's one thing to take on another country to challenge it's position in an attempt to improve your own country's position. But if it isn't done properly it all blows up and ends up making things worse. drumpf hasn't done anything correctly or appropriately, and as a result, he hasn't accomplished one single thing. You don't "weaken China by projecting it as a pariah state". Everyone has always known what China is all along. I've been boycotting Chinese made products whenever possible since before Obama was president. Probably going back before Bush Jr. and Clinton. How about you? Or did you just become aware of China's manipulations when drumpf brought it up? You talk about the US letting the world know who it thinks it's friends are and who they aren't? You think that saying things out loud for all to hear is how that is done in foreign diplomacy? You have got to be kidding? These things are done behind the scenes and quietly. When one country comes to the other for something, that's when they are told, if you want that you're going to have to give us this. What that does is it gives the other country the ability to capitulate and agree without it looking like they caved to the other's demands and made to look weak. The only people who like the brash yet ineffective style of drumpf, and who tout this as being positive because "you know where you stand" and what you call "two faced politics" are people who don't understand the first thing about negotiation, foreign diplomacy and simple human nature. And you clearly don't understand the first thing about the guy. But that's ok. You go on saying what you say. It's really quite entertaining.
 

raleighnut

Legendary Member
Would you sooner trust Hillary "I accidentally deleted 33,000 dodgy emails" Clinton, or Joe "not sure what day of the week it is" Biden? Trump is a flawed character without question, but the alternatives are far worse from where I'm standing.
So 'The Fart' who grabs women 'by the pussy' and can't remember cheating on his wife with a Pornstar/Stripper despite his lawyer buddy paying her a substantial amount of money is a better choice. :wacko:
 

raleighnut

Legendary Member
What's interesting about everything you've said is that it's all talk. drumpf hasn't accomplished one single thing that you are giving him credit for. There is no trade deal with China. China continues to churn out cheap stuff and the West continues to buy the stuff. And it's one thing to take on another country to challenge it's position in an attempt to improve your own country's position. But if it isn't done properly it all blows up and ends up making things worse. drumpf hasn't done anything correctly or appropriately, and as a result, he hasn't accomplished one single thing. You don't "weaken China by projecting it as a pariah state". Everyone has always known what China is all along. I've been boycotting Chinese made products whenever possible since before Obama was president. Probably going back before Bush Jr. and Clinton. How about you? Or did you just become aware of China's manipulations when drumpf brought it up? You talk about the US letting the world know who it thinks it's friends are and who they aren't? You think that saying things out loud for all to hear is how that is done in foreign diplomacy? You have got to be kidding? These things are done behind the scenes and quietly. When one country comes to the other for something, that's when they are told, if you want that you're going to have to give us this. What that does is it gives the other country the ability to capitulate and agree without it looking like they caved to the other's demands and made to look weak. The only people who like the brash yet ineffective style of drumpf, and who tout this as being positive because "you know where you stand" and what you call "two faced politics" are people who don't understand the first thing about negotiation, foreign diplomacy and simple human nature. And you clearly don't understand the first thing about the guy. But that's ok. You go on saying what you say. It's really quite entertaining.
Thing is it's a part of the British 'Anti EU' agenda to cosy up to Farty as 'the Farage' has been doing for years.:cursing:

Another thing to watch out for is that our PM 'Bojo the Clown' was actually born in the US so is technically able to run for President :eek:
 

MntnMan62

Über Member
Location
Northern NJ
Would you sooner trust Hillary "I accidentally deleted 33,000 dodgy emails" Clinton, or Joe "not sure what day of the week it is" Biden? Trump is a flawed character without question, but the alternatives are far worse from where I'm standing.

Yes. I'd trust Hillary over drumpf, who's daughter has been using her personal email address for official business. And you have the nerve to say Biden doesn't know what day of the week it is when drumpf can't even lift a simple glass of water to his face to drink or walk down a ramp with a slight incline without almost toppling over. And what about his ridiculous rambling about those ridiculously simple cognitive tests he brags about taking? They are SUPPOSED to be easy. They test basic cognitive capability. He's not talking about an IQ test. The guy is a moron. Yet you impart a level of intelligence on him that clearly does not exist. Any sane individual would realize that......
 
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