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roubaixtuesday

self serving virtue signaller
Really? I follow this sort of thing quite closely for professional reasons, and I don't remember hearing about it.

Just 'frinstance


View: https://mobile.twitter.com/jamesannan/status/1278627304202272768
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
Boris Bounce.
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gbb

Squire
Location
Peterborough
All over my Christmas ?
That's all down to how alert people are say Shapps, glad that's been cleared up then.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-on-how-alert-people-grant-shapps-coronavirus
Sadly, while the government is optimistic in its outlook, I suspect they havn't set foot in many workplaces and seen the real world. That'd soon give them a dose of the reality I see out there. Theres plenty of cases cited in response to my work observations in here...and plenty of similar observations from friends, colleagues and service engineers I've spoken to, the problem lays squarely with stupid people who refuse to comply...almost en masse in factories in the food supply chain. Some of that responsibility also lays with employers who seem to want to manage 'at arms length'.....ie put all the measures in place but do the minimum to make people comply.
We've now had 22 confirmed cases in two weeks, some before...and they're just the ones we know about....and STILL, the fookin idiots wont social distance when left to their own devices and STILL sneer at the guy who is charged with making staff comply.
Sort these places and people out and the infection rate would likely plummet.
 

roubaixtuesday

self serving virtue signaller

No two ways about it, very depressing chart, that.

I genuinely don't understand what govt is about at the moment. Cases seem to be rising, and we're simultaneously reducing restrictions.

And promising stadiums to open by October.

And it'll all be over by Christmas.

Their actions, and the data seem to guarantee their promises will fail. I sincerely hope I'm missing something here.
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
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No two ways about it, very depressing chart, that.

I genuinely don't understand what govt is about at the moment. Cases seem to be rising, and we're simultaneously reducing restrictions.

And promising stadiums to open by October.

And it'll all be over by Christmas.

Their actions, and the data seem to guarantee their promises will fail. I sincerely hope I'm missing something here.
I assume Boris is beginning to panic about his legacy. Having dithered and delayed thousands to their deaths, he's now got enormous debts and a stalled economy, with a manifesto to inflict further damage to the economy.
 
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Rezillo

TwoSheds
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Suffolk
I assume Boris is beginning to panic about his legacy. Having dithered and delayed thousands to their deaths, he's now got enormous debts and a stalled economy, with a manifesto to inflict further damage to the economy.

...and a Russia report that may claim Russia was funding/supporting pro-Brexit pressure groups and disinformation sources because it saw Brexit as damaging to the UK and EU and therefor a good thing and an easy win as far as Russia was concerned.

My guess, anyway - it would explain Johnson's desperate attempts to suppress the report and install an idiot patsy as committee head. That failed, hence the sudden barrage of deflecting publicity on Russia's other meddling before the report comes out next week.
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
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...and a Russia report that may claim Russia was funding/supporting pro-Brexit pressure groups and disinformation sources because it saw Brexit as damaging to the UK and EU and therefor a good thing and an easy win as far as Russia was concerned.

My guess, anyway - it would explain Johnson's desperate attempts to suppress the report and install an idiot patsy as committee head. That failed, hence the sudden barrage of deflecting publicity on Russia's other meddling before the report comes out next week.
I doubt that we'll learn all that much from the report because the annexe won't get published. And it won't get published for reasons of ''national security'' - exactly the reason why it should be published.
 

Slick

Guru
That's the kind of biased reporting that would get blasted if it was regarding anyone else as you have to go to the end of the article to get what he actually said.

"I can't abandon that tool any more than I would abandon a nuclear deterrent. But it is like a nuclear deterrent, I certainly don't want to use it. And nor do I think we will be in that position again," he said.

I'm not a supporter by any means and I've posted on a few different subjects that I think he's a buffoon but I still think the above is fair enough.
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
That's the kind of biased reporting that would get blasted if it was regarding anyone else as you have to go to the end of the article to get what he actually said.

"I can't abandon that tool any more than I would abandon a nuclear deterrent. But it is like a nuclear deterrent, I certainly don't want to use it. And nor do I think we will be in that position again," he said.

I'm not a supporter by any means and I've posted on a few different subjects that I think he's a buffoon but I still think the above is fair enough.

I disagree with your comments the other day and today that go in the obtuse direction. There's a link to the telegraph article at the top. For some reason you seem far more interested in what Boris says his opinion is (as opposed to policy) than what Vallance or Whitty say. I can't say I share that interest but you're welcome to tune in and enjoy as much as you want.

I said more Boris comments.

Present evidence as to why this is inaccurate. Boris commented. Where is your evidence he didn't? Boris made a very large set of comments recently and this is adding some more. Present evidence that 'more' is incorrect i.e. he hasn't said anything recently.

I don't think it is helpful in any way comparing the virus's likelyhood of coming back and possible reactions to that with nuclear weapons.

It's trivial that someone wouldn't want a national lockdown back. The mechanics of a national lockdown are rather different and more complicated in some ways than local ones which also have problems. It was speculated at the time the government wanted one for London to have a more local lockdown. That didn't happen. Results from local restrictions around the world were very mixed e.g
Italy and more recent examples are more positive.

I do wonder whether Boris and Matt are so positive because of the antibody kits and spit tests set to come in before winter which would be very major advances. Btw Vallance also commented on national measures saying there was a risk of them being needed in winter.
 
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