Coronavirus outbreak

[tom73]

@Gazjacko I've not seen the official updated advice yet so can't tell you what the official line is.
For the moment continue doing what you feel is safe and you're happy with. You're going to need at some point to speak with which ever HCP is over seeing the day to day management of your condition. I'd not do that yet as to date every time the advice has change it's only come out late at night within minutes of it coming into effect. So best leaving it for a few days they are going to over load of calls about this today.
You need to contact your employer again they mostly don't know much at the moment either. They will need to find new ways to manage the work place before you go anyway near it. If they can't then some other way has to found or they will have to continue what ever your doing now.

 

[Gazjacko]

I’m fortunate in that my employer is happy for me to work from home and others in my situation are being dealt with in a similar pragmatic way. I’ve likened it to asking someone to cross the road with their eyes shut. At the beginning it was middle of the day and the road was busy so you’d be foolish to think about it. With measures the traffic’s less but you still wouldn’t want to try! The Government is now proposing to increase the traffic !

 

[tom73]

So 2 to 1 it is with mitigation if you have to sorry Boris that's yet more wishy washy public health.
So you must wear face coving on the bus to the shop but once in the shop do what you like.
We can't have both the less distance more risk , more placers open more risk.
How many weeks must we have this time before the message changes ?
How many cases must have and in turn deaths?

 

[Inertia]

I definitely won’t be stepping in a pub on the 4th, They sounds like a recipe for disaster.

 

[DCLane]

The changes mean my holiday on 6th July goes ahead, but we'll be in a lodge on a park. No shared facilities.

I'd be concerned about still being too close to others. Sorry Boris but no cinema, pub, restaurant for me yet.

 

[johnblack]

I can't wait, pubs have been hit hard and much more of this would mean that many would never open again. For villages like mine, it's more than just a pub, it's a families home, a community asset and an employer.

 

[Rezillo]

Mrs R and I were discussing a couple of days ago the curious silence from the science advisors over the last week and the contrast with the week before when there were clear signs of unrest from them over the speed of the end of lockdown.

We wondered if they had been shut up, perhaps by warnings of total economic collapse for extending or renewing lockdown and that whatever happened next, Johnson has made it clear it would have to be lived with somehow but not by shutting down the economy.

If so, we thought that Johnson's tactics would be to then try and force blame for any rise in cases onto the general public for not following distancing guidelines rather that it being down to him opening everything up.

We also thought we could expect to see some warnings coming out about how a second lockdown would be a disaster, in order to reinforce the "I'm not to blame, there's no choice" position for any upturn in cases.

I didn't expect this to start as early as yesterday! The Governor of the Bank of England wheeled out to give a rather vague, light on detail presentation about how close the first lockdown came to disaster. I expect Johnson will pat him on the back for that and ask him to go back in his cupboard.

 

[johnblack]

The Governor of the Bank of England wheeled out to give a rather vague, light on detail presentation about how close the first lockdown came to disaster.

Financially it really has been a disaster that will be with us for years, making the post 2008 financial issues look like a minor blip, the next few years are going to be brutal.

 

[tom73]

Public health wise has not been a bed of roses which will last for decades. Health and economic wellbeing are not opposites.
However much the government likes to play they off each other. The risk of a 2rd lockdown will make this one look nothing. It's a big game of risk the garment are playing. A 2rd wave on top of winter pressures and the NHS will not be able to save the governments neck again. Never find the extra lives it wont be able to save.

 

[tom73]

Some good news today's daily briefing is the last one. Now only getting one when they "something significant to announce"
oh the excitement can't wait

 

[GilesM]

I definitely won’t be stepping in a pub on the 4th, They sounds like a recipe for disaster.

That's your choice, and totally up to you, I'll be in one as soon as I can, probably be the 11th as that's when I'll next be south of the border, unless I have a wee trip to Cornhill upon Tweed or Norham for Sunday lunch on 5th. Economically we are totally screwed, and the only way out is for people to start spending cash, I quite enjoy spending my spare cash in the pub

 

[johnblack]

My guess is that most people who like and spend time in pubs will be back, people who tend to pop to the pub every now and again will be the ones who stay away. Plus the youth, they'll want to get back.

 

[coldash]

Got my "extremely vulnerable" letter today. Seems fair enough to me. I've got a borked immune system and am on blood thinners so I'm used to mitigating risk as far as is compatible with living a life. So I avoid busy times on the road, wear a helmet (Sorry!), take my blood thinners late in the day so that they are well through their half-life before I'm out on my bike, wear my dog tags at all times (except in bed), get my flu jabs, keep fit and avoid people coughing up their guts as much as possible. The things that I do differently are avoiding shops, coffee cafes, the gym and people in general. I'll probably do some of the latter (not sure about the people aspect) as and when I think the numbers work for me. I'll still drive (not that I have recently) and do the same risk / reward bit with that. All in all, not a lot different to life before Covid-19, but with an additional and unwelcome factor to consider.

 

[Archie_tect]

Public health wise has not been a bed of roses which will last for decades. Health and economic wellbeing are not opposites.
However much the government likes to play they off each other. The risk of a 2rd lockdown will make this one look nothing. It's a big game of risk the garment are playing. A 2rd wave on top of winter pressures and the NHS will not be able to save the governments neck again. Never find the extra lives it wont be able to save.

Perhaps it's a cynical preparation, bringing forward a second wave before Autumn to avoid the overlap with winter pressures.

 

[Inertia]

That's your choice, and totally up to you, I'll be in one as soon as I can, probably be the 11th as that's when I'll next be south of the border, unless I have a wee trip to Cornhill upon Tweed or Norham for Sunday lunch on 5th. Economically we are totally screwed, and the only way out is for people to start spending cash, I quite enjoy spending my spare cash in the pub

Good for you, while I have sympathy for the pubs affected I’m not going to risk my life to keep them in business. We don’t have to go to the pub to spend cash.