Coronavirus outbreak

[MntnMan62]

Here's a headline from today's news from the Associated Press. Let's just open up the entire planet. That way those who have the brains to see that there is no cure or vaccine for the virus yet will continue to keep their distance and wear masks while those who are dimwits will congregate without masks and give each other the virus. And many will die. Now that's what I call the Law of Natural Selection.

https://apnews.com/3a3642cb4b7244665dda34c437c87988

 

[Inertia]

Here's a headline from today's news from the Associated Press. Let's just open up the entire planet. That way those who have the brains to see that there is no cure or vaccine for the virus yet will continue to keep their distance and wear masks while those who are dimwits will congregate without masks and give each other the virus. And many will die. Now that's what I call the Law of Natural Selection.

That sounds like the early government policy

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

In my little local, the bar manager knows who everyone is anyway!

I've got a feeling many of the big public houses will do away with cash payment and do it contactless with service at the table or at a dedicated service counter somewhere accessible at the bar.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Here's a headline from today's news from the Associated Press. Let's just open up the entire planet. That way those who have the brains to see that there is no cure or vaccine for the virus yet will continue to keep their distance and wear masks while those who are dimwits will congregate without masks and give each other the virus. And many will die. Now that's what I call the Law of Natural Selection.

Except it doesn't work like that. It's impossible to completely isolate yourself, so if there's a high prevalence, we'll all end up with it.

 

[Julia9054]

I don't think he knows me.

I bet he does! He’s really clever like that.
Just as your brain has half formulated the thought that you might like another, he appears as if by magic at your elbow to ask if you’d like another. He also remembers whatever bollox you were drivelling on about last time you were there.

 

[Julia9054]

He does now I've told him. And you're barred!

I can’t imagine him barring anyone - he’d just look disappointed and they’d bar themselves

 

[RoadRider400]

Facebook... deleted that 2 years ago.

Facebook? Completed it.

 

[tom73]

Deaths in the US now bigger than from WW1 and just had new case increase not seen since May.
This on the back of WHO recored biggest daily case total to date. Tomorrow meanwhile Boris moves to "please yourself we are bored with this now" phase.

 

[fossyant]

What the heck is going to happen to those most at risk come August. How can a teacher or nurse work safely when they, for example, may have a severe heart or lung condition.

Some employers will insist they are back at work, or no pay. My employer is looking at 5 different classes of staff, from can work safely on site to those who won't be able to risk coming in.

 

[MntnMan62]

Deaths in the US now bigger than from WW1 and just had new case increase not seen since May.
This on the back of WHO recored biggest daily case total to date. Tomorrow meanwhile Boris moves to "please yourself we are bored with this now" phase.

It would seem Boris and drumpf are taking cues from each other.

 

[tom73]

What the heck is going to happen to those most at risk come August. How can a teacher or nurse work safely when they, for example, may have a severe heart or lung condition.

Some employers will insist they are back at work, or no pay. My employer is looking at 5 different classes of staff, from can work safely on site to those who won't be able to risk coming in.

Your stuffed the government line look's to be you will go out and when we say so. All the help your going to get is talk to your employer and work something out. Some may have good ones many won't. If you can't work from home or fly a desk well away from risk. It look's like your down the job centre.

 

[MntnMan62]

Your stuffed the government line look's to be you will go out and when we say so. All the help your going to get is talk to your employer and work something out. Some may have good ones many won't. If you can't work from home or fly a desk well away from risk. It look's like your down the job centre.

That's just not how it should be. No one should be forced to RISK THEIR LIVES for a job. Unless of course that job itself is taking a risk with your life. But I suspect that in the US this will become a major issue for the election. The virus isn't going anywhere since there is no vaccine. So when so many people who can't afford to take that risk are facing a job lose merely to stay alive, you can bet people will speak up to the pollsters and drumpf's support will drop even lower than it is now. He'll either intervene on their behalf and put in place some protections to protect those workers or he'll face the reality of his term ending in February. He'll probably face that anyway regardless, but he only cares about himself so he'll try and shore up his support if he thinks it's worth shoring up. He also may not care. Either way, he's done.

 

[Gazjacko]

As someone who is shielding I am really concerned that the Government either
Don’t understand
Or
Don’t care
Which is worse? I’m not sure. I heard that the “risk is down”, NO IT’S NOT! Anyone working in risk management know there are two factors, risk and likelihood. For me (I have an underlying respiratory condition and am on immunosuppressant drugs), if I contracted Covid it is highly likely I will be at least very ill and possibly worse. My chances of permanent damage to my lungs ( and my ability to ride my bike) are high. This is the ‘risk’. The likelihood currently with social distancing at 2metres is high enough for me to only go out for short early morning rides (5am) or selected quiet walks where I’m able to move away from others if necessary. With the proposal to reduce to 1metre my world contracts if I wish to place myself to the same level of exposure.
So which one is it?
The Government don’t understand, meaning they are incompetent, useless, we’re pre-warned about pandemic preparation and did nothing.
Or
They know, they look at the shielding group and as an average I’d guess they are more likely to economically non-contributors, so with the economic imperative of the new measures, the shielding group will have to be collateral damage!

 

[fossyant]

@Gazjacko - people like yourself, visibly fit and healthy with underlying conditions will still need to be very careful (TBH I'm being careful as I don't fancy catching it) and unless an employer can work through this, it's going to be very tough. The PM can't just say it's now safe.. he's going to get a roasting.

Working at a Uni, we've probably got hundreds of people who can't really come in to work - within 1m you've probably got 4 other people in the offices, never mind the students. The plan is that if you don't need to be there, you are to stay home. This eases building congestion. We're going to end up with a quite complicated 'classification' system. The other worry is if folk develop a 'cold' cough then everyone will be running for cover and taking 14 days isolation sick leave.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

The other worry is if folk develop a 'cold' cough then everyone will be running for cover and taking 14 days isolation sick leave.

This is why we need a massive, rapid, test and trace strategy - and why it's vital to suppress the thing before winter.