Coronavirus outbreak

[Slick]

I have just looked at the UK government site, and 14 days' quarantine is going to be the requirement for anyone entering the UK as of tomorrow morning. Does anybody have any idea how long it is intended to keep this regime? It does seem a bit strange that the rest of Europe is lifting this kind of restriction and the UK has only now got round to imposing it.

We are supposed to be having a holiday in Cornwall at the beginning of September, and notwithstanding the new rule would rule this out would only consider actually doing the holiday if the infection rate is well down, which I hope it will be - and is what really matters.

It's to be reviewed every 3 weeks.

 

[Slick]

What seemed strange to me was the fact people were rushing onto flights today desperate to get back to the UK before this isolation thing came in.

 

[cookiemonster]

The behavioural science has been done......for example there's this one that suggests masks keep people away and increase social distancing......

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2005.12446.pdf

The inherent problem is that this is a public health issue which doesn't lend itself to traditional medical or clinical trials. So getting the science is somewhat challenging - however the best evidence comes from cross country comparisons (facemask wearing countries vs non-) although, as I'm sure you are aware there many confounding variable getting in the way causal analysis.

BTW that Guardian article I linked to focuses on the challenges of providing evidence - it's not really just about particle transmission.

I’ve came into this late so apologies if it’s been mentioned.

The University of Hong Kong just 2 weeks ago, released results of a study that concluded that masks reduce the risk of infection from 66% to just 16%. It just confirms what we always knew, masks play a large part in reducing virus transmission.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

I’ve came into this late so apologies if it’s been mentioned.

The University of Hong Kong just 2 weeks ago, released results of a study that concluded that masks reduce the risk of infection from 66% to just 16%. It just confirms what we always knew, masks play a large part in reducing virus transmission.

Perhaps it's also worthwhile looking elsewhere for spikes in countries where masks have been in use for longer, and wearers are theoretically less risk averse, than in the UK. There have been few that I recall.

 

[marinyork]

Perhaps it's also worthwhile looking elsewhere for spikes in countries where masks have been in use for longer, and wearers are theoretically less risk averse, than in the UK. There have been few that I recall.

Italy...

 

[tom73]

Oh goodie a new task force for social care headed up by an "expert" with a wealth of experience.
We have one already it's the CNO when the NHS needed bed's and field hospitals matt was full of warm words now she completely vanished.
Nurses are not just around to make the beds and deal with the bed pans. The lack of respect being shown by the government for the role of CNO say's it all. Her lack of leadership is not helping either.

 

[mjr]

Local trading standards warning about test-and-trace scam calls:

View: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3380186308699867&substory_index=0&id=234209923297537&refid=17


Does anyone know why fraud prevention seems to be left to county councils these days?

 

[tom73]

WHO reporting outbreak is worsening globally
More than 100,000 cases had been reported in nine of the past 10 days, and that 75% of yesterday's cases came from just 10 countries - most of them in the Americas and South Asia.
Not looking good even if a number of counties are looking good numbers wise. It’s still a worrying trend.
As more open up it won’t take much to go rapidly out of control again

 

[Slick]

WHO reporting outbreak is worsening globally
More than 100,000 cases had been reported in nine of the past 10 days, and that 75% of yesterday's cases came from just 10 countries - most of them in the Americas and South Asia.
Not looking good even if a number of counties are looking good numbers wise. It’s still a worrying trend.
As more open up it won’t take much to go rapidly out of control again

Did I not read somewhere that Brazil have given up on announcing daily figures now? I did see some pictures in the news over the weekend that may have skewed my opinion but it looks like they are really struggling to contain things over there.

 

[tom73]

Did I not read somewhere that Brazil have given up on announcing daily figures now? I did see some pictures in the news over the weekend that may have skewed my opinion but it looks like they are really struggling to contain things over there.

Yes the president did not like the flack he got about about them. So just removed the data and stopped any new ones. They really are in a mess he basically treats it as joke actively encouraging everyone to ignore control measures.

 

[rualexander]

Sniffer dogs look likely to be a useful adjunct to the testing regime.

In a trial, they were able to correctly identify covid-19 infected patients by their armpit sweat odours.
Most had > 80% success rate, four dogs had 100% success rate.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.03.132134v1

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/sci...gian-shepherd-dogs-trained-sniff-out-covid-19

Whether they can do it out in the real world is another question of course, further trials are ongoing.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

Telling graph of the Hancock ring of confidence. See the care home lag...

 

[mjr]

What kind of perverts label every eighth day?

I know it's nothing compared to the week-plus difference in peaks but it's still infuriating!

 

[fossyant]

What kind of perverts label every eighth day?

I know it's more compared to the week-plus difference in peaks but it's still infuriating!

The automatic graph gremlin in excel !

 

[tom73]

Telling graph of the Hancock ring of confidence. See the care home lag...
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To be fair he never mentioned the massive mine field and anti tank defences they had to get past to reach it.