Coronavirus outbreak

[randynewmanscat]

Of course, a larger share of the printed press won't see it like that. But even the BBC noted that Johnson had repeatedly looked round for rabble rousing support from his own benches only to find that there weren't enough of them there. Those that were there, seemed to be taking things somewhat more seriously, to my eye.

My favourite villain of the printed and online rags tells it like it isn't; "Fiery coronavirus clash" tells you the piece will be a let down by Express standards and it was but the BTL I had to skim through as it is my solemn duty to.
That the Express did not byline this as "Boris dismantles" is telling but the BTL indigenous numbnuts, the bots and the troll farm employees manage to stay on message and ramp up King Boris, for me its all about the troll farm employees.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/poli...-coronavirus-latest-news-politics-news-latest

 

[midlife]

@PK99 a bit of a follow up for you.
The RCN today has published a few stats. over 70% of calls to it's helpline are about lack of PPE, or inadequate standard, or fitting of PPE.
Since it published guidelines a few weeks ago it's had 101 calls from nurses who after trying all other options. Have considered refusing to treat patients. Some may think well i'd report them get them stuck off. Well the NMC is backing the right for a Nurse not to treat someone if they don't have PPE. Just think about that a statutory body who's main job is to protect the public is so concerned over lack of PPE that it will allow a HCP. To refuse to treat someone if they don't have the correct PPE.

Even the BMA has just reported 85% of GPs and 38% of hospital doctors have been forced to source their own PPE for themselves or their department to use. 30% said they wouldn’t bother to speak up as they didn’t think anything would be done about it.
one in four doctors either failed or have not been fit tested for an FFP3 mask at all.

So some body along the line is not telling the truth and we still have a big problem that need's fixing.

I failed my FFP3 fitting using disposable masks, not an issue at the moment as my service is closed and not needed on the wards but just wondering what is the next step?

 

[tom73]

Remember the 400,000 gowns from Turkey ?
The order that appeared "magically" that was on , off , not quite ready , coming anytime soon. The one the RAF had to get but made 2 trips for. They've now failed safety tests so can't be used
So much time lost which could have be used sorting out the suppliers stuck in the "we have PPE / we want to help" logjam
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52569364

 

[Edwardoka]

Remember the 400,000 gowns from Turkey ?
The order that appeared "magically" that was on , off , not quite ready , coming anytime soon. The one the RAF had to get but made 2 trips for. They've now failed safety tests so can't be used
So much time lost which could have be used sorting out the suppliers stuck in the "we have PPE / we want to help" logjam
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52569364

Did no-one think to test them before ordering them?
Or did the usual "it will be fine" bluster and bravado win out over doing the most basic of due diligence?

 

[Blue Hills]

seems irresponsible for the government to let stories circulate that restrictions are to be dramatically eased and to wait until sunday to make announcements about the situation. Especially with it being a bank holiday weekend.
Went out briefly in south london yesterday - may have been my imagination but I had the idea that there was more traffic around.

 

[marinyork]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...formation-gps-in-the-dark-over-covid-19-tests

GPs say they don't have access to test results

 

[Edwardoka]

seems irresponsible for the government to let stories circulate that restrictions are to be dramatically eased and to wait until sunday to make announcements about the situation. Especially with it being a bank holiday weekend.
Went out briefly in south london yesterday - may have been my imagination but I had the idea that there was more traffic around.

There absolutely is more traffic around. I live within earshot of a motorway and when the "lockdown" first kicked in it was eerily quiet.

The noise has steadily been returning in volume and duration, now we're back to distant roar at all hours of day. Plus ça change.

 

[Blue Hills]

There absolutely is more traffic around. I live within earshot of a motorway and when the "lockdown" first kicked in it was eerily quiet.

The noise has steadily been returning in volume and duration, now we're back to distant roar at all hours of day. Plus ça change.

yes - I was also cycling east up the A13 from london towards barking a couple of days ago - that was surprisingly busy - I had hoped not to be choked by fumes as I was last time I did it.

 

[marinyork]

seems irresponsible for the government to let stories circulate that restrictions are to be dramatically eased and to wait until sunday to make announcements about the situation. Especially with it being a bank holiday weekend.
Went out briefly in south london yesterday - may have been my imagination but I had the idea that there was more traffic around.

Are they though? Or is it appearances. Picnics, sunshine, seeing limited numbers outside household units. I wouldn't call that so. A five point plan that runs to October if you believe the mirror and other papers.

We have been here before! I think the government are just trying to raise spirits. Everything I have heard the last week from a mental health and isolation perspective has been bad. Households where people live on their own of all ages seem to have been hit particularly hard.

 

[tom73]

@Edwardoka @Blue Hills Traffic is on the up round here too so I asked my LA about setting up safe walking and cycling space post lockdown.
After few emails later I got called a Zealot unable to see the bigger picture and how it may inconvenience other citizens.
Head of highways even said having met local cycling groups they'd said they prefer to cycle off road.
Are they really trying to tell me that the 2 road clubs we have here prefer to cycle off road?
So the money is going into that she explained why "We think that this will probably get more people cycling than trying to make already congested routes “safe” for them to do.

 

[DaveReading]

So the money is going into that she explained why "We think that this will probably get more people cycling than trying to make already congested routes “safe” for them to do.

Translation ?

 

[marinyork]

It's a shame because in Manchester and London they seem to he reclaiming space for walking and cycling.

 

[lane]

There absolutely is more traffic around. I live within earshot of a motorway and when the "lockdown" first kicked in it was eerily quiet.

The noise has steadily been returning in volume and duration, now we're back to distant roar at all hours of day. Plus ça change.

At "height" of the lockdown we were down to 1970s levels of traffic. Wonder what decade we are up to now?

 

[tom73]

Translation ?

It's her attempt at explaining way spending money they have will go on off road cycling and not on safe on road cycling.
By safe I think she's trying quote be back at myself. As I'd explained that the current white paint or blue signs they love to use are not safe. Even though they publicly say they are on the council website.

 

[tom73]

It's a shame because in Manchester and London they seem to he reclaiming space for walking and cycling.

I know some areas are really getting in this and with any luck some of it may stay.