Coronavirus outbreak

[PK99]

My impression is that they've been following the science from an excessive distance all along. Perhaps they're afraid of catching science.

The science of Pandemics is dealt with in this video from 2018, I'd posted it before but doubt many have watched the full 53 minutes.

you will see from this that they have been following the science very closely


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn55z95L1h8&list=PLhtkwgaSAUtaDFMdfhSvxp_keWgaB16A8&index=4&t=0s

 

[Blue Hills]

Interesting. Will try to watch. Thanks for posting. Used to go to quite a few gresham lectures.

 

[Low Gear Guy]

My impression is that they've been following the science from an excessive distance all along. Perhaps they're afraid of catching science.

The role of government is to balance the various views of scientists and economists and then make a decision. To claim that they are following the science is misleading as I would expect experts to recommend a more rigorous lockdown.
The government needs to own the outcome.

 

[mjr]

[*]Various forms of pollution don't help by weakening the immune system

Do we now know that's the reason, rather than c19 being carried on pollution or something?

 

[marinyork]

Interesting. Will try to watch. Thanks for posting. Used to go to quite a few gresham lectures.

Been posted about four times now, it's just people are on different peoples' ignore lists so not aware.

 

[marinyork]

Do we now know that's the reason, rather than c19 being carried on pollution or something?

The list said suspect or know. There are other things on there I didn't put on or details not gone into.

Some forms of pollution could literally be spreading it, having a free ride said elsewhere or staying in the air longer. It could be both.

The definitive answer to that either if it ever comes is probably going to advance human understanding in some useful way.

 

[PK99]

The role of government is to balance the various views of scientists and economists and then make a decision. To claim that they are following the science is misleading as I would expect experts to recommend a more rigorous lockdown.
The government needs to own the outcome.

See around minute 48 in the above video- Whitty describes screening at airports and banning of travel as "...utterly useless..."

 

[DaveReading]

There's a marked increase in air traffic to Heathrow this morning.

No, there isn't. About 40 flights have landed so far today, pretty much the same number as for the last few mornings.

The only difference is that, after 10 days of landings and takeoffs in an easterly direction (so aircraft were approaching from the west, over Berkshire), the wind has changed and now arriving aircraft are coming in over Central London.

 

[Blue Hills]

Been posted about four times now, it's just people are on different peoples' ignore lists so not aware.

I have no one on ignore (never seen the point) - just not seen before.

 

[Blue Hills]

It seems like this is the grauniad working its usual angles but few can argue that Ardern's leadership hasn't cast very many leaders in a deeply unfavourable light. Frankly I'm all for getting rid of male world leaders. We are RUBBISH at it.

The next President of the biggest superpower on earth is either going to be a guy who advocates injecting disinfectant and UV light or the guy who gets 1.5 million likes for tweeting "I can’t believe I have to say this, but please don’t drink bleach. "

Way to set the bar high, rich old men.

mm - agree with the implication of your first bit - the guardian gender desk has long been flakey (polite word) though at least it has been improved with the mass disappearance of comments on many gender articles where the modding was often disgraceful.
I posted it as it somewhat flabbergasted me and as an example of how some from Trump to con merchants are trying to pathetically leverage the hell. To go more into depth on it would be a thread divert though.

>>Frankly I'm all for getting rid of male world leaders. We are RUBBISH at it.

Maybe you should start a new thread.

 

[tom73]

Well if old Reagan had still been in change I'm sure Nancy would have fixed it all by now.
Either that or he'd have got on his horse and shot it.

 

[PK99]

MrsPK is off to give blood later in the week.

Following a link on the reminder e-mail took her to a FAQ, where among other things was:

Why are you not taking people’s temperature on arrival?

Our colleagues in Italy found that checking temperature was not an effective way of determining whether somebody was potentially infected with coronavirus – a normal temperature reading in a donor may provide false reassurance about risks. (Ed: my emphasis) We assess donors when they arrive to make sure they are fit to donate and ask them if they are displaying any symptoms of coronavirus. This is not a medical diagnosis. If anyone has a high temperature they should self-isolate and contact NHS 111 online. We are keeping all safety measures under constant review and may make further changes in the future.

 

[kingrollo]

This thread is the best source of information on the web. Long live the armchair experts !

 

[newfhouse]

This thread is the best source of information on the web.

How do you know that?

 

[kingrollo]

How do you know that?

Touche - I don't.
But I find the discussion on here very informative with a good cross section of views.