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marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
Yeah. Road traffic levels are definitely increasing. Why can’t people obey bloody runs.

The papers and the media this morning are not great.

Although it isn't just footy. Snippets about pods and clusters.
 

Pat "5mph"

A kilogrammicaly challenged woman
Moderator
Location
Glasgow
However I think the new normal is 700 people per day dying - but people going about their business just hoping it isn't them.
Sadly, I agree with this.
Maybe people living in the London area will be more aware of the dangers of contagion, because they had so many deaths.
Here in Scotland people will just carry on as normal.
I can't see social distancing in shops happening when the good weather stops, are people going to queue round the block of Asda under the pouring rain?
 

Buck

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
My impression, wrong or right from yesterday's announcement, was that all Key Workers could be tested, irrespective of whether any infection has been suspected.
I know the gov site was saying what you posted, though. If folk can't get on it, how do we know if that policy has changed?

Pete, they will only test you If you are symptomatic. Then, if it’s like the testing for NHS before, the key period is between days 2 and 5 of your symptoms appearing.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Sadly, I agree with this.
Maybe people living in the London area will be more aware of the dangers of contagion, because they had so many deaths.
Here in Scotland people will just carry on as normal.
I can't see social distancing in shops happening when the good weather stops, are people going to queue round the block of Asda under the pouring rain?

Either that or being wheeled in to A&E by one door and then out the back one by the undertaker as they have no beds to even try and save you.
 

mudsticks

Obviously an Aubergine
Out in the fields keeping people feed is vital work. Reopening Aston Martin car plant next week to make the latest model is not.

Well rather unsurprisingly, I'd agree.

But there are many who would say otherwise.

Food just magically appears in the fridge, no one really knows, or cares how.

But the latest Aston Martin ??
Well now, we're talking really important stuff. :wacko:
 

Pat "5mph"

A kilogrammicaly challenged woman
Moderator
Location
Glasgow
Either that or being wheeled in to A&E by one door and then out the back one by the undertaker as they have no beds to even try and save you.
We still have the whole of the exhibition centre empty, about 4000 beds afaik.
Maybe when this is full, people will start to pay attention.
But, tbh, I think it hasn't hit close to home for most people here in the Glasgow area.
 
The experts and politicians can pontificate about avoiding second peaks and social distancing as much as they want but the bottom line is most people are getting pretty sick

Quite so.
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
Those clamouring for a return to normalcy are spreading unrest and in doing so are both hastening and worsening the second peak (I will eat my hat and those of anyone who wants to have their hat eaten if there isn't one).

We haven't even started to see any of the long-term effects of the virus. Fibrosis will figure heavily in the lives of those who were most afflicted who go on to make a recovery.

There will be extremely long lasting effects of coronavirus psychologically and physically for a percentage of patients that leave ICU.

I don't think it's so much those clamouring for a return to normal that are causing the trouble, it's a lack of a change of tack in a clear message by the politicians and media which like the middle of march is needed now. There are a lot of 1-peakers out there and in the media.
 

flake99please

We all scream for ice cream
Location
Edinburgh
Screening of staff (whatever that involves) and the wearing of face masks will become mandatory from the 27th April for all Costco employees. Finally they’re starting to take things more seriously.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Well rather unsurprisingly, I'd agree.

But there are many who would say otherwise.

Food just magically appears in the fridge, no one really knows, or cares how.

But the latest Aston Martin ??
Well now, we're talking really important stuff. :wacko:

A lot of talk about a big uptake of farm shops and more shopping local. Which many think will continue after this is over which is fine until they find out the local farm can't grow strawberries at Christmas. The disconnect with food and the reality is massive and ever growing.
Look I'm saving planet i've a cotton bag the fact it's full of stuff shipped in is lot on them.
The uptake wont fix the biggest problem either many can't afford the stuff in the 1st place. But a lot like to gloss over that when they drive miles so that little Octavia can help mummy with the shopping away from the common people.
 

marinyork

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Location
Logopolis
Highlighting the daily mail front page

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-stay-home-rules-allow-small-groups-meet.html

So England is considering bubbles/clusters or the technical name pods for those modelling it. This is interesting as in recent days there had been commentary on it

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...l-distancing-social-pods-coronavirus-lockdown
 
Highlighting the daily mail front page



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-stay-home-rules-allow-small-groups-meet.html

So England is considering bubbles/clusters or the technical name pods for those modelling it. This is interesting as in recent days there had been commentary on it

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...l-distancing-social-pods-coronavirus-lockdown
The Daily Fail last week claimed they where working on a ''traffic light'' system nothing is heard of it again, i can't find anything in the article suggestion it's not out of their big thumb.. In a other article they claim ms Patel is going to read the riot act.. Sounds more like that not easing at all.
 

lane

Veteran
The problem is three weeks ago if felt like the lockdown was going to be for a longtime, it was new, people were worried, acting accordingly. Now it feels like the lockdown will be coming to an end soon, there are a lot less people telling you stay home save lives, and people are acting accordingly. Put it another way in the week or two before the lockdown many people pre-empted some aspects of the lockdown in one way or another of thier own volition - now the reverse is happening.

Death rates have lost some of thier shock value just another number on the TV each night.

Plus best estimates are less than 5% of people have been infected so people get the idea they don't have to worry too much because the chances of catching it are not too high. Before the lockdown people were more worried about it I think.

The danger is the lockdown will be lifted in part before the infection rate and R0 have really fallen low enough so a second peak is more of a risk. The government advisors still seem worries infections aren't falling quickly enough.
 
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