Coronavirus outbreak

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tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Basically we’ve got one change , the current situation to have any hope of slowing things to a level we can manage. The message from the CMO and today from DCMO made it quite clear now is not the time to ease off. It won’t take much for the virus to speed up again people really need to carful about what they ask for.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
We have capacity because we've mostly played by rules. But equally it’s due in part to the elephant in the room called planned Surgery. Once we open up beds to some planned surgery the bed numbers will soon change.
 

MarkF

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Well Harrogate Coronavirus Hospital now not opening after all suggesting that Yorkshire and Humber hospitals currently have enough capacity

I'd guess our hospital runs at about 90% capacity on any "normal" day. Right now, I'd guess it's running at 30-35% capacity and the extra ICU facilities and wards closed for the expected virus overflow have never been used at all. So far.
 

SkipdiverJohn

Deplorable Brexiteer
Location
London
Be interesting to see where we are next week. Right now would you bet against pubs and restaurants being open in some form by June ?.....I wouldn't.

The sooner the better. The experts and politicians can pontificate about avoiding second peaks and social distancing as much as they want but the bottom line is most people are getting pretty sick of the disruption and inconvenience of the lockdown, and compliance is clearly beginning to crumble, as rising road traffic shows.
The politicians have a clear choice; either they can fight a rearguard action to try and maintain an extended lockdown and alienate a lot of voters, or they can see the writing on the wall, play it smart and end it quickly, then claim the credit for not wrecking the economy too much.
 

slowmotion

Quite dreadful
Location
lost somewhere
The sooner the better. The experts and politicians can pontificate about avoiding second peaks and social distancing as much as they want but the bottom line is most people are getting pretty sick of the disruption and inconvenience of the lockdown, and compliance is clearly beginning to crumble, as rising road traffic shows.
The politicians have a clear choice; either they can fight a rearguard action to try and maintain an extended lockdown and alienate a lot of voters, or they can see the writing on the wall, play it smart and end it quickly, then claim the credit for not wrecking the economy too much.
They are in a very difficult position but nobody is going to thank them when the bodies start piling up if there's a big second peak. It's uncharted territory. I'm quite prepared to accept another couple of months of restrictions if that significantly reduces the overall death toll. The problem is that nobody has enough information to make an accurate decision. It's all guesses.
 
It's not looking encouraging in South America. Although Ecuador's total confirmed cases doubling in a day is apparently due to them receiving an influx of testing equipment but they reckon the death toll is far higher than recorded, and it is already by far the highest deaths per million population in South America.

I've seen some images on social media of piles of bodies and bodies in wheelbarrows, their provenance is unknown, but it is extremely grim nonetheless.

Peru has had riots due to the strictness of their lockdown, and while these strict measures seem to have delayed the growth, the floodgates have opened over the past week.

Brazil has Trump-with-trees Bolsonaro. There can be no doubt that it will tear through the favelas and leave corpse mountains in its wake.
 
The sooner the better. The experts and politicians can pontificate about avoiding second peaks and social distancing as much as they want but the bottom line is most people are getting pretty sick of the disruption and inconvenience of the lockdown, and compliance is clearly beginning to crumble, as rising road traffic shows.
The politicians have a clear choice; either they can fight a rearguard action to try and maintain an extended lockdown and alienate a lot of voters, or they can see the writing on the wall, play it smart and end it quickly, then claim the credit for not wrecking the economy too much.

Not a self employed white van man by any chance are you ?
 
Those clamouring for a return to normalcy are spreading unrest and in doing so are both hastening and worsening the second peak (I will eat my hat and those of anyone who wants to have their hat eaten if there isn't one).

We haven't even started to see any of the long-term effects of the virus. Fibrosis will figure heavily in the lives of those who were most afflicted who go on to make a recovery.

I have a cousin who has required oxygen for decades now. I only see her at funerals and she's gone from being active to needing a walker to needing a wheelchair because of her condition. She's not much older than me. Trust me when I say that that is far more inconvenient than not being able to go to the pub or restaurant.

The pandemic is not going away this year. The sooner that people accept that this is the new normal, the better they will cope.
 
Those clamouring for a return to normalcy are spreading unrest and in doing so are both hastening and worsening the second peak (I will eat my hat and those of anyone who wants to have their hat eaten if there isn't one).

We haven't even started to see any of the long-term effects of the virus. Fibrosis will figure heavily in the lives of those who were most afflicted who go on to make a recovery.

I have a cousin who has required oxygen for decades now. I only see her at funerals and she's gone from being active to needing a walker to needing a wheelchair because of her condition. She's not much older than me. Trust me when I say that that is far more inconvenient than not being able to go to the pub or restaurant.

The pandemic is not going away this year. The sooner that people accept that this is the new normal, the better they will cope.

Couldn't agree more. However I think the new normal is 700 people per day dying - but people going about their business just hoping it isn't them.
The govt know the lockdown is being breached by all and sundry - claiming to be working on ventilators or delivering medical equipment.

STAY HOME PROTECT THE NHS - but B + Q and River island are open !

The minister's aren't fools they know what's going on - they are saying one thing publicly - but then telling everyone on the QT ... business as usual.
 
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