kingrollo
Guru
Self test in an app - on symptoms alone (Tick !) [thats sarcasm from me not fact.......yet]
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Self test in an app - on symptoms alone (Tick !) [thats sarcasm from me not fact.......yet]
lane
Veteran
Yes I read that. It's odd that on the news at the time Italy looked a lot worse than UK looks on the news now or than it seems living day to day. Not sure why that is? Was it because Italy was concentrated in a small area of the country or we just don't realise how bad it is here if not directly involved?
I don't think the media will hold them to account, because it's impossible to.
If you look at the testing in some Italian regions it's likely to be repeated here. I have very serious doubts about the UK getting up to a sustained average of 100,000 a day any time soon. I'm not saying it won't happen, just a lot of doubts. Italy's doing about three times as many tests as the UK when at one bit we were level with them and arguably ahead (early on). Nothing like 100,000 a day. This is because there's a lack of infrastructure in many regions, a real penny pinching and lack of tests. Some regions are doing barely any tests.
When my father got admitted and then later explained about the swab tests, it's just sheer damn frigging luck. He was 2 mins away from a lab which had dibs on a geographic area and generous testing capacity of about 1000 a day, which still isn't that big a deal btw as a local new prog was bragging about yesterday I think it was, and there will be variations of some UK areas doing 5 times fewer testing than other areas. It's ridiculous. Wonder if the UK will publish testing figures by ethnicity
.It's starting to look like Veneto's testing regime where they hogged a lot of capacity in Italy has paid off. 200,000 + tests, getting up to UK levels, for a population of 5 mil. Fairly low death figures, despite having documented early outbreaks.
P.S. the 100,000 figure from Hancock comes from the national biosample centre in milton keynes which supposedly can do 25,000, one that will open in cheshire (date unknown) and one in glasglow. Presumbly that's 75,000 and between everywhere else it probably is realistic to get the remaining 25,000.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...tre-only-conducting-1500-tests-a-day-11971991
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...tre-only-conducting-1500-tests-a-day-11971991
kingrollo
Guru
of course testing is only part of the equation - those results - have to get back to hospitals/patients - and acted upon
Sticking buds up peoples' noses for long periods of time, by skilled nose pokers, and then driving them around the country at high speed is amongst the reasons I don't want to rely too much on PCR in it's current format. It's utterly ludicrous, but at the very early stages of the virus Jan (when it was adapted for CV-19) and february obviously invaluable and the only tool.
Veneto's disappeared off into the distance and is doing the sort of blood test I believe my father had. I'm told by Italian media it's for health workers and care home residents/workers. I bet we do this stuff, but it'll be a month or two away.
Joey Shabadoo
My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
From posts from care workers on other boards and WhatsApp group messages I've seen, there seems to be an almost manic desperation from some managements to ""Keep Calm and Carry On", driven to a large degree by not wanting to deter new customers. Pressure has been put on Drs not to record Covid 19 as cause of death, residents with symptoms being dumped on hospitals (so they'll die there and not in the Care Home), staff being pressurised and blackmailed into coming into work when they're vulnerable or showing symptoms, PPE being downplayed for appearances sakes and one care home even allowing normal visits right up until April 8th when the Police were called. They're businesses, not healthcare establishments.
Theories about a maximum spread of the coronavirus of 15% such as cruise ships and a german town is blown out of the water.
A third of the crew of a french military ship catch this coronavirus
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...rier-crew-catch-coronavirus-charles-de-gaulle
And that's excluding results for the other 30% of tests apparently.
A third of the crew of a french military ship catch this coronavirus
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...rier-crew-catch-coronavirus-charles-de-gaulle
And that's excluding results for the other 30% of tests apparently.
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mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
How about reposting the link if you want more people to read it, rather than make everyone spend time at the very least clicking your username, then Postings, then reading back through dozens? At last you don't make your profile private so people don't have to resort to the site search.
https://www.theguardian.com/society...reaking-people-dying-at-home-help-denied-them
It's quoted testimony from "a paramedic with the West Midlands Ambulance Service". It's arguably justifiable for the journalist to report it as a possible "canary", but not really in line with the NUJ code because it's not verified as accurate. Is there any second source saying the same yet?
DCLane
Found in the Yorkshire hills ...
- Location
- Dewsbury, West Yorkshire
What's not being considered here is the rehabilitation; patients need up to 3 weeks intensive care and then a significant period longer in rehab.
SWMBO's hospital are preparing for this. She's not been needed in intensive care so is helping prepare for rehab patients that will arrive in the next week. New wards have been created in what is a small town hospital in South Yorkshire. Most of those will have been tube-fed if they've been on a ventilator/oxygen so, as a Dietitian, she's going to be busy since they'll need to continue the tube-feeding process and be slowly brought off as part of rehabilitation.
SWMBO's hospital are preparing for this. She's not been needed in intensive care so is helping prepare for rehab patients that will arrive in the next week. New wards have been created in what is a small town hospital in South Yorkshire. Most of those will have been tube-fed if they've been on a ventilator/oxygen so, as a Dietitian, she's going to be busy since they'll need to continue the tube-feeding process and be slowly brought off as part of rehabilitation.
- Location
- Somewhere wet & hilly in NW England.
Rocky
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The Prof has just received the first consignment of 100 oximeters (to measure oxygen saturation of blood) - a personal donation from a Chinese doctor and there are more to come. There's a huge shortage of these in Oxfordshire and surrounding areas - they'll be used to help monitor Covid patients to see if they need to be admitted to hospital. There are many other examples of individual generosity from Chinese professionals - it's quite touching to see this solidarity.
Richard A Thackeray
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kingrollo
Guru
Steady on old chap - we need man competitive against another man, cut throat , back stabbing - competitiveness , exploitation is where it's at ..
None of this love thy neighbour- solidarity crap !!!
