Coronavirus outbreak

[kingrollo]

So a vaccine could be here by September - says a professor - who is in talks for funding...

Feasible ? - on no evidence whatsoever I'm gonna say yes !!!! (Over to the experts !)

 

[rualexander]

My son has just tested positive for Covid19 and is self-isolating.....he tells a very interesting story about his first day at a new hospital last week and the induction for PPE. He was 'shown how to fit a FP3 mask properly'. This was done by putting on a sealed plastic diving-bell type helmet and an odour was pumped which they had to taste and smell. He then had to fit a mask and go through the same procedure - if he couldn't taste the gas or smell it, he had fitted the mask correctly.

Now here is the stupidity - there were ten other doctors on this induction, each one had to wear the diving-bell helmet with no PPE and there was no attempt to clean it before the next person wore it. Perhaps Matt H could explain why NHSE is using this approach to induction?

FWIW, after most of the doctors complained, this process has been stopped.

This doctor's vlog shows him getting the mask fitting procedure you describe at 9:28 in the video timeline.


View: https://youtu.be/7XZ2_xSHKMw

 

[Rocky]

This doctor's vlog shows him getting the mask fitting procedure you describe at 9:28 in the video timeline.


View: https://youtu.be/7XZ2_xSHKMw

Yes, that’s exactly it!! I’m not sure why my son had to share it with 10 others.....surely one each would be the norm. Of course he’s not sure where he caught Covid19 from but it’s really worrying that, until a week ago, this was going on.

 

[mjr]

This was done by putting on a sealed plastic diving-bell type helmet and an odour was pumped which they had to taste and smell. He then had to fit a mask and go through the same procedure - if he couldn't taste the gas or smell it, he had fitted the mask correctly.

That seems particularly farking stupid when an early symptom of covid19 seems to be loss of smell and taste! Presumably some of the infected never fit their masks right!

 

[Rocky]

That seems particularly farking stupid when an early symptom of covid19 seems to be loss of smell and taste! Presumably some of the infected never fit their masks right!

Absolutely but more of a problem seems to be the ease with which the masks break. After his swabs yesterday, he was given two masks to wear during his isolation. The ear strap on one broke before he got out of the hospital. The other broke on his way home.

 

[tom73]

It look's like they've got hold of some left over costumers from Dr No.
Some how think Mrs 73 has missed out on the fun she got trained how to use them long before this.
She's still trying to make up her mind as to what to she has just seen.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

So a vaccine could be here by September - says a professor - who is in talks for funding...

Feasible ? - on no evidence whatsoever I'm gonna say yes !!!! (Over to the experts !)

Link please

 

[marinyork]

Link please

It's on most of today's media.

Sarah Gilbert.

Yes, that Sarah Gilbert.

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-11...y-autumn-says-oxford-professor-sarah-gilbert/

 

[mjr]

She's still trying to make up her mind as to what to she has just seen.

"Earth is unprepared (helpless) for the nightmares I've seen. Or should I stay, protect my home, not show them you exist. But then you'll never know … the wonders I've seen."

 

[Ming the Merciless]

 

[nickyboy]

I'm confused. Is it the doctors that wear the masks....or the doctor's enemies?

 

[Rocky]

I'm confused. Is it the doctors that wear the masks....or the doctor's enemies?

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Both!! See the recent BMJ paper

https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1435

 

[kingrollo]

It's on most of today's media.

Sarah Gilbert.

Yes, that Sarah Gilbert.

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-11...y-autumn-says-oxford-professor-sarah-gilbert/

enlighten me - Is Sarah Gilbert not a credible source ?

 

[marinyork]

enlighten me - Is Sarah Gilbert not a credible source ?

I would say so since she's famous and been mentioned numerous times on tv two or three weeks ago and I believe indirectly on this thread.

The interesting bit of the story is it's essentially an update from about three weeks ago and progress made.

 

[Edwardoka]

My son has just tested positive for Covid19 and is self-isolating.....he tells a very interesting story about his first day at a new hospital last week and the induction for PPE. He was 'shown how to fit a FP3 mask properly'. This was done by putting on a sealed plastic diving-bell type helmet and an odour was pumped which they had to taste and smell. He then had to fit a mask and go through the same procedure - if he couldn't taste the gas or smell it, he had fitted the mask correctly.

Now here is the stupidity - there were ten other doctors on this induction, each one had to wear the diving-bell helmet with no PPE and there was no attempt to clean it before the next person wore it. Perhaps Matt H could explain why NHSE is using this approach to induction?

FWIW, after most of the doctors complained, this process has been stopped.

Hopefully your son makes a swift recovery.

Maybe that training procedure is correct and good in normal circumstances but during a pandemic, I struggle to imagine how much procedural idiocy prevented common sense kicking in.

Sainsburys have a guy whose job it is to disinfect shopping trolleys before giving them to customers, it's staggering to me that hospitals are less meticulous.