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I can only imagine he would count you as at more risk of it being serious, maybe a stint in hospital but not likely all things being equal to die from an infection. Those who have died, mostly over 70, really do have serious existing illnesses, often in themselves likely to lead to death in the not too distant future.
You could if you wanted hear the discussion by putting Prof. Streek and Prof. Püschel about the results of the first Corona study in Heinsberg (Germany) in YouTube and calling up the English subtitles. The pathologist is Prof Püschel starting at about 17:25. However, the translation is pretty bad (it can't distinguish between Sie as you, her or they) so you will likely only get the gist of it if your brain is in good working order - assuming you never had German inflicted on you at school!
@Pat "5mph" You might find this interesting. Lanz has had some interesting guests on of varying persuasions. The night before Karl Lauterbach MP and epidemiologist who painted a very sombre picture of this lasting well into next year e.g. no sports even in 2021. I suspect (hope!) overdone.
This is precisely the time to consider a pay rise for nursing staff. Not let it get buried in a committee for months waiting for the sacrifice and effort to disappear from public view due to the football championships or something.
They don't have to name a percentage, but a commitment to acknowledge the worth of nursing staff would be fine for now.
Johnno260
Veteran
- Location
- East Sussex
People just need to have respect for other people’s personal space, which has gotten bigger these past few weeks.
I think some people passing close is probably just from habit but it doesn’t excuse it.
I have many elderly near me so I don’t want to make them feel uncomfortable with a cyclist passing close, hence why I move as far from the curb as I can, basically middle of the road and I have done that since way before the lockdown was announced, it’s just a case of being responsible in these times.
The old dear who ripped into the boy racer who had a pop at me for giving her a wide berth made my week, she was brutal I loved it, and her thanking me and saying thank you young man for respecting peoples space made my year, I haven’t been called young in years haha
They should also consider bringing nurse bursaries back IMO.
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
Is anyone really going and queuing across a tarmac wasteland that used to be a car park in the hot sun for an hour in Easter week for stuff they don't need? I really doubt it. I think recreational shopping's gone online.
Wobblers
Euthermic
- Location
- Minkowski Space
S. Korea has done over 500,000 tests. 91 is a small total compared to that. Given that no test is 100% accurate, it's quite possible for there to be false negatives - where the test comes back negative but the patient still has the virus. There are just over 10,500 cases of SARS-CoV2 in S Korea. Those 91 people testing positive again is less than 1% of the total. A 1% false negative rate seems very plausible to me. Some (most?) people still test positive for the virus even after recovering, and can do so for as many as 28 days: virus clearance is not particularly fast. There is no indication that those who're now testing positive again are suffering symptoms or experiencing a relapse.
Mishaps in the testing labs also should not be ruled out. A friend of mine who's working in a US lab told me of one incident where four samples were mixed up, so four people have been mistakenly told that they have the virus - and four others that they don't when they do. You will get the occasional mistake when 500,000+ tests are done.
In short, given that the virus takes a long time to clear even after symptoms disappear, and that testing is not 100% accurate, this sort of thing is inevitable. I wouldn't read too much into it.
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
News from Belgium: slight net increase in hospitalisation, worry over care home death toll, first court conviction for four-time lockdown-breaker, debate over public mask use continues, shortages in shops including flour because apparently too much is in catering-size bags not retail ones, Eurozone financial support, chocolate Easter bunnies with masks to honour medics, virus-shaped hamburgers in Vietnam
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rualexander
Legendary Member
They never went away in Scotland, this year going up to £10,000 a year.
Proto
Legendary Member
- Location
- East Devon/West Dorset
They are being reintroduced in September 2020. Up to £5000 per annum. In some instances an additional £3000 is available.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/nursing-students-to-receive-5-000-payment-a-year
That's good news. Why someone opting for one of the caring professions should have to pay a chunk towards their own training beats me. It's not as though such a degree has to be followed by training in something else relevant to a job, as is true of many degrees.
A friend of ours back in the UK who went into nursing once the kids were older told us of the demoralisation due to insufficient staffing levels. Dangerously low in some cases, and I am glad austerity is no longer making this situation continue of even worsen.
A friend of ours back in the UK who went into nursing once the kids were older told us of the demoralisation due to insufficient staffing levels. Dangerously low in some cases, and I am glad austerity is no longer making this situation continue of even worsen.
It's good. Funny how it takes a coronavirus to decide how reasonable completely normal policies like grants, or sick pay for the first 3 days, or that SSP isn't enough to live on.
I doubt support or care workers who work outside the NHS will have any up lift in pay, conditions or anything like that. For the sorts of reasons talked about those roles should have student debt cancellation. I doubt we'll even ever know how many of these workers die of the coronavirus essentially doing their jobs at a higher risk compared to most other jobs.
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Unbelievable just heard old Matt publicly accuse some healthcare staff of misusing PPE and maybe using more than they need.
Well that's simple Minister suspend all local protocols covering PPE , ask no better still mandate all trusts , providers ect to both provide the correct PPE guidelines as pre PHE. To all staff in all areas of care both direct and indirect for that information to be clearly displayed in all clinical and none clinical areas. To train all staff in the correct use of PPE to a nationally arranged standard by staff who are correctly trained and experienced in all levels of it's use.
Don't leave it up to employers to just do it as many just don't as good training costs money. Or as is happening they completely mess it up.
Don't expect Staff to have to go looking for the correct advice either which is what many have had to do.
Or expect Staff to tell other staff they are doing it wrong as they have been trained and the other staff member has not.
Above all Minister sort out the supply issues if you don't know how to fix it then ok.
It's not a weakness to ask for help from ones who can it's called leadership.
Well that's simple Minister suspend all local protocols covering PPE , ask no better still mandate all trusts , providers ect to both provide the correct PPE guidelines as pre PHE. To all staff in all areas of care both direct and indirect for that information to be clearly displayed in all clinical and none clinical areas. To train all staff in the correct use of PPE to a nationally arranged standard by staff who are correctly trained and experienced in all levels of it's use.
Don't leave it up to employers to just do it as many just don't as good training costs money. Or as is happening they completely mess it up.
Don't expect Staff to have to go looking for the correct advice either which is what many have had to do.
Or expect Staff to tell other staff they are doing it wrong as they have been trained and the other staff member has not.
Above all Minister sort out the supply issues if you don't know how to fix it then ok.
It's not a weakness to ask for help from ones who can it's called leadership.
Slick
Guru
The nurse certainly felt he accused them but he did try and explain that as long as everyone used the right ppe and the correct amount, there wouldn't be any further shortages now they are on top of the supply chain.
Julia9054
Guru
- Location
- Knaresborough
My eldest has been working the odd shift in a residential care home since he graduated 18 months ago. It is a good supplement to his income as a musician. He obviously has no professional income at the moment so decided to apply for care work round here and come and live at home for a bit. I am appalled that the care organisation he is starting work for made him pay £60 out of his own pocket for his DBS check given the pittance he is being paid. Apparently this is standard in the industry whilst the owners of these large care home chains are raking it in.
