vickster
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It’s none of anyone’s business though (not that such ever stopped the U.K. press)
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What?! It is absolutely in the public interest - she is a high-ranking member of the cabinet, as well as an MP. Do her constituents not have a right to know where she is?
Rocky
Hello decadence
Particularly given the current lockdown situation and the role of the police in maintaining it. That is the responsibility of the Home Office.
mjr
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Priti Patel has appeared on BBC Look East by video call a few times since the lockdown. She appeared to be working from home, in line with government advice, which seems fine to me: the number of different faces and mixed messages from the Downing Street daily sermons is enough of a problem already without adding a rather divisive politician with a tendency to sneer.
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vickster
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There’s nothing to stop them contacting her directly 👍
Rocky
Hello decadence
Although there are specific Home Office aspects to this - for example one of my relations returned to Heathrow from northern Italy a week or so ago. No screening, no advice, no thermal imagining cameras - she got straight on a train to London and then another to Yorkshire. Shouldn't Pritti Patel, as the secretary of state responsible for our borders have been ramping up screening/education/information provision?
She probably too occupied writing and producing the new government public information advert.
Stay home but you can still do........ as some believe it covers many volumes. She will then be declaring all cinemas to reopen as it will have turned into a film.
I have it on good authority a sequel will follow called Do you really need to told what's the right thing to do?
Subtitled use your common sense.
Rocky
Hello decadence
Boris is in intensive care. I wish him all the best and hope he fully recovers soon.
The BBC is reporting this:
Our reporters have just been briefed on the latest news regarding the condition of UK prime minister Boris Johnson - who spent the night in intensive care after his coronavirus symptoms worsened.
Downing Street says the prime minister was stable overnight and remains in good spirits.
He is receiving "standard" oxygen treatment and is breathing without any other assistance, a spokesperson says.
He has not required mechanical ventilation or non-invasive respiratory support.
The prime minister has not had a pneumonia diagnosis, the spokesperson adds.
If this is the case, why is he taking up a valuable bed in ICU that could be used to save someone's life? My son is working at a London teaching hospital and its ICU is full. Actually, I believe Boris does need the ICU bed and is in a worse condition than No 10 is saying. Please stop taking us for fools - either tell the truth or don't comment.
The BBC is reporting this:
Our reporters have just been briefed on the latest news regarding the condition of UK prime minister Boris Johnson - who spent the night in intensive care after his coronavirus symptoms worsened.
Downing Street says the prime minister was stable overnight and remains in good spirits.
He is receiving "standard" oxygen treatment and is breathing without any other assistance, a spokesperson says.
He has not required mechanical ventilation or non-invasive respiratory support.
The prime minister has not had a pneumonia diagnosis, the spokesperson adds.
If this is the case, why is he taking up a valuable bed in ICU that could be used to save someone's life? My son is working at a London teaching hospital and its ICU is full. Actually, I believe Boris does need the ICU bed and is in a worse condition than No 10 is saying. Please stop taking us for fools - either tell the truth or don't comment.
Julia9054
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Cycled into Harrogate this morning (to show him all the short cuts and ways of avoiding big roundabouts) with my son who has just started work at the new Nightingale hospital created in Harrogate conference centre. The place looks alarming. Giant blue fence surrounds it, security including the army and huge oxygen tanks outside the Royal Hall. Made me shudder.
RecordAceFromNew
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That's a good question.
Also he is in St. Thomas. It is one of only three hospitals in London that have ECMO machines, and afaict there are only 30 ECMO beds in the country. Unlike ventilators, such machines can keep you alive and win time for recovery even if your lungs are completely stuffed.
Yes, it brings me no joy to say that I called it - they don't bring people into hospital for precautionary tests, it's pure spin, and this was proven to be the case as his condition deteriorated.
I wholeheartedly agree with your last sentence. Speculating is deeply unhelpful, but so is "dear leader"-esque spin.
mjr
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Probably - but couldn't any of the reporters on the TV screen could ask the sermon-deliverers that, or video call Priti Patel directly?
I don't think the Home Minister needs to be in London while Parliament is not sitting and I doubt you were suggesting her personally go to Heathrow and ramp up provision.
"Standard" oxygen if they class that as any thing other than mechanical help. Then he may well be on high flow oxygen which would explain the need for an ICU bed. NIV is looking the likely route at some point if he stays in ICU longer though that can be carried out on a Nurse lead respiratory care unit they would also be able to do high flow. So it's either they have no room, enough staff or machines to go round.
Or as Mrs 73 put it when I told her when he 1st went in "so Boris isn't well"
mjr
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Ah but does St Thomas have them because it's a big hospital in central London in sight of the country's busiest rail station, or because it's near to Downing Street and Parliament?
Would a PM "at home" ever go anywhere else in an emergency?
Rocky
Hello decadence
I think leadership is important during these challenging times. Sunak, Vallance, Whitty and Boris have shown it. Other ministers, such as Gove, Hancock, Sharma and Jenrick have been found wanting. People expect their top politicians to step up to the plate. I’m disappointed - people are making huge sacrifices and deserve support.
