Coronavirus outbreak

[Fab Foodie]

I'm totally confused. Is the general consensus amongst the parishioners ….

a) we're all going to die
b) everything's pretty much OK
c) who cares either way? I like worrying.

?

If you have been listening to LBC phone-ins, then the answer is YES.

 

[Fab Foodie]

On the bright side I could be the only guy to survive and the only remaining female is seriously hot.

....and LGBTQ etc....

 

[Milzy]

Is it a massive over reaction then?

 

[nickyboy]

Take a look at what @greenmark posted several weeks ago. HK has managed to slow the rate of infection by massively resourcing the effort and relying on a population experienced in dealing with these things.

I hope all those people saying it's just flu, relax etc etc in UK still follow the advice re hand washing etc

Am in Hong Kong. I can share a few pointers on what to do.

First, I've seen R0 transmission rate models that of between 2.2 and 2.6. This is the number of people each infected person in turn infects. Note the models seem well researched but also the more drastic models are the ones that are more likely to be shared so I may not have seen other lighter models. Based on R0 of 2.5 one should expect between 60% and 90% of the world's population to be infected at some point.

In Hong Kong we've gone into full SARS mode. People here know the drill. The measures people are taking were the ones implemented to get SARS rate down below R0=1. So, all public events are being cancelled. Everyone is wearing a surgical mask out of home (although technically only infectious people wear need wear one, and technically you could get arrested for it as a protestor). Wash your hands every 30 minutes or so with alcohol sanitiser or soap and water.

My suggestions - be prepared for when this reaches Europe. Right now the one thing you should do is stock up on hand sanitiser.

Once it starts getting into Europe start stocking up on face masks. Then stock up on household essentials such as tinned food. Get into the habit of washing your hands frequently and wash thoroughly for at least 20 seconds each time. Get some surgical face masks if you can - this won't necessarily help you but will reduce you passing it on to others.

Be prepared also for lockdowns similar to Foot & Mouth. This will include cancellation of large public events such as RideLondon, marathons etc.

 

[kingrollo]

So one of the UK measures being considered.......

Scrap the maximum class size for schools ??????

Scrap the maximum hours a lorry driver can drive

....the only logic is that porky Johnson was probably going to do this anyway.

 

[marinyork]

Italy currently has some 880 cases.

China had 845 tested positive on 23 January. Seven days later they had 9,800. Seven days after that they had over 30,000 positive tests.

And all that was during their lock-down, and during the time that they did not have enough test kits to test everyone.

The Italy maps reported in the UK are very out of date. There are coronavirus cases going quite a long way south from the 11 towns and even south of the DOH's line 'north of Pisa'.

 

[I like Skol]

Just realised, I've been sneezing a bit in the last 24-36hrs. Nothing else, but definitely an unusual number of sneezes......

 

[kingrollo]

Just realised, I've been sneezing a bit in the last 24-36hrs. Nothing else, but definitely an unusual number of sneezes......

My wife's coughing
like nobodies business !!!! - normal stuff stuff for this time of year I suppose.
Apart from the hygeine measures there's feck all you can do.
A colleague of mine who wasn't even I'll dropped dead in the office a few weeks back - age just 58 ....you can't choose when you die

 

[Rusty Nails]

I'm guessing that you are c) ?

Guess away. It'll be as accurate as your previous posts on this topic.

 

[Poacher]

So one of the UK measures being considered.......

Scrap the maximum class size for schools ??????

Scrap the maximum hours a lorry driver can drive

....the only logic is that porky Johnson was probably going to do this anyway.

Purely temporary legislation which will be revoked when the emergency is deemed to have ended.

 

[kingrollo]

Purely temporary legislation which will be revoked when the emergency is deemed to have ended.

Yeah right ! - this will soon be the norm if a teacher or lorry driver calls in sick.

 

[RecordAceFromNew]

Is it a massive over reaction then?

Unlikely.

Only three were reported in Italy last Friday. Today there are 888. But because 21 have died there, the actual number of Italians infected is likely much higher, because firstly only c1% are fatal, but more importantly on average it should take around two weeks or more - this is also consistent with other indications that the virus is likely to have been in Italy for weeks.

Similarly 43 have died in Iran, yet the total number of cases is apparently only 593.

While it might not be 100% effective in isolating the sick, everyone in and out of Hongkong airport had their temperature checked a month ago (I happened to be there) and would be barred from flights if they had a fever. This seems still not the case with flights out of Italy to Europe or UK, and afaik there is still no control on any European land borders either.

I think the opportunity to contain it has unfortunately long gone.

 

[Racing roadkill]

Here’s the latest advice from the W.H.O.

 

[kingrollo]

The UK rumoured response would seem to prioritize the economy of saving lives.

 

[Fab Foodie]

https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...ve-she-has-coronavirus?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other