Coronavirus outbreak

[MarkF]

I hope other hospital staff understand the potential of this virus. As far as I can see, the spread is already of control.
This morning, it had spread to 50 countries. Tonight it's 60 countries.

Probably think the same as me, it certainly will spread further but it's not going to kill like the bubonic plague did, tbh, most I work with are sick of hearing about it. Many would be surprised at what the NHS is prepared for, at any moment, and just as at most hospitals, mobile "pods" appeared at mine, just like that, up and ready to test people 100's of people away from the regular areas.

I am not sure but think the facility has been used once, to test a family with a poorly child who had just flown in from Hong Kong. Tests were done and they were told to self isolate for several days whilst awaiting the test results. The mother instead whined to local rag about the problems that this was causing and admitted to going shopping because she "had to".

 

[Rocky]

Probably think the same as me, it certainly will spread further but it's not going to kill like the bubonic plague did, tbh, most I work with are sick of hearing about. Many would be surprised at what the NHS is prepared for, at any moment, and just as at most hospitals, mobile "pods" appeared at mine, just like that, up and ready to test people 100's of people away from the regular areas.

Do you mind me asking....are you clinically qualified Mark? It’s just I seem to be getting a very different message about the seriousness of this from the two doctors in my household.

 

[MarkF]

Do you mind me asking....are you clinically qualified Mark? It’s just I seem to be getting a very different message about the seriousness of this from the two doctors in my household.

No, I am an electrician. That's why I never offer medical advice.

 

[vickster]

Rumours UK up to 35 positive cases now.

Good luck all !!

Out of 67m inhabitants...

How many have been diagnosed with measles in the Uk this year for example?

There have been 546 case of mumps reported in January 2020 in England, a disease that is preventable through vaccination...a nasty disease that can cause inflammation of the testicles (and with it male infertility), and in rare cases, meningitis and deafness. Are we all up to date with our MMR?

 

[Rusty Nails]

Totally agree. We are all going to be elderly some day. Most elderly people I know still love life and want to continue living for a bit longer. I don't like feeling like they are somehow being pushed down the list of priorities.

At least we haven't had the comments about the elderly being responsible for Brexit.

 

[kingrollo]

Out of 67m inhabitants...

How many have been diagnosed with measles in the Uk this year for example?

The have been 546 case of mumps reported in January 2020 in England, a disease that is preventable through vaccination...a nasty disease that can cause inflammation of the testicles (and with it male infertility), and in rare cases, meningitis and deafness. Are we all up to date with our MMR?

Not sure of you're point ?? - whilst I don't doubt the above is true - you only have to look at Italy which went 3 to 600 infections in just over week - I could be wrong - but I don't see mumps escalating at that rate.

I won't deny the odd are stacked in your favour - (although I m 56 with Asthma so perhaps mine aren't quite as good) - As I have said a couple of posts back - there isn't a lot you can do - other than wash youre hands and hope for the best - but that doesn't mean it isn't a concern.

 

[vickster]

Not sure of you're point ?? - whilst I don't doubt the above is true - you only have to look at Italy which went 3 to 600 infections in just over week - I could be wrong - but I don't see mumps escalating at that rate.

I won't deny the odd are stacked in your favour - (although I m 56 with Asthma so perhaps mine aren't quite as good) - As I have said a couple of posts back - there isn't a lot you can do - other than wash youre hands and hope for the best - but that doesn't mean it isn't a concern.

The point is that everyone is focused on Coronavirus but most adults are not not up to date with their MMR which protects against 3 potentially nasty preventable diseases which can lead to life long problems for all age groups, healthy and less healthy. There should be a push to get adults vaccinated asap and the UK to regain its herd immunity.
Yes of course we should all wash our hands properly after sneezing, going to the loo, before eating

 

[kingrollo]

The point is that everyone is focused on Coronavirus but most adults are not not up to date with their MMR which protects against 3 potentially nasty preventable diseases which can lead to life long problems for all age groups, healthy and less healthy. There should be a push to get adults vaccinated asap and the UK to regain its herd immunity.
Yes of course we should all wash our hands properly after sneezing, going to the loo, before eating

Would you have been called in for an MMR - or do you have to ask ? - Both my lads had it.

I still don't think it compares to an illness which has killed 3k people this year for which there is no vaccination or cure.

 

[vickster]

Would you have been called in for an MMR - or do you have to ask ? - Both my lads had it.

I still don't think it compares to an illness which has killed 3k people this year for which there is no vaccination or cure.

Ask your GP. I had it when I went to Latin America where measles is endemic.

140000 people died of measles in 2018, 10 million cases. 2019 expected to be worse once data collated

 

[MarkF]

I still don't think it compares to an illness which has killed 3k people this year for which there is no vaccination or cure.

But 1.5 million people died from tubercolosis in 2018.

 

[kingrollo]

But 1.5 million people died from tubercolosis in 2018.

Again not sure of the point [TB I believe has a vaccination ?] - Im not saying other diseases aren't concerning - but a new illness, which we know very little about - appears to spread quite easily - has no cure or vaccination - is a big deal IMO - Thats not say im sitting here shitting myself 24/7 - but equally Im not saying 'nah its nothing'

 

[vickster]

Would you have been called in for an MMR - or do you have to ask ? - Both my lads had it.

I still don't think it compares to an illness which has killed 3k people this year for which there is no vaccination or cure.

98% get over it without much intervention looking at the data (and that's based on those who present, many don't)

 

[kingrollo]

98% get over it without much intervention looking at the data (and that's based on those who present, many don't)

Yes but thats only half of the story - we don't know how many people will get infected - if say 45% of the UK population get it - those numbers in terms of head count start to rack up
Again not sure - but think the quoted figures are 98% survive and for 80% its a minor illness - 5% get critically ill (again not sure but they may need hospital beds)
Either way its risk management probability V impact.

 

[vickster]

Was just reading that smoking history seems to be a more likely precursor to death, esp among Chinese men where smoking is extremely common, and thus high presence of COPD.

Where was it suggested that 45% might get it in the UK?

 

[nickyboy]

98% get over it without much intervention looking at the data (and that's based on those who present, many don't)

That is incorrect
98% don't die. But of those that don't die about 20% require serious medical intervention such as hospitalisation. Of that 20%, about a quarter require Intensive Care treatment
Currently in Italy for example there are more than 100 CV patients in ICU

Gotta keep washing those hands. I talk to friends in SK, PRC and HK almost every day. Hand washing and good personal hygiene is the key

Mrs N was on the tube today, wearing gloves. Amazing to see most other people with bare hands. Seems the seriousness hasn't hit home yet