I’m all for investigative journalism, people having a voice and for all of us to be able to put across differing views to the mainstream but he consistently plays the controversy card and loves nothing more than to stir things up. The trouble is that through The Mail he then has many readers believing that his words are truth rather than opinion.
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I’m all for investigative journalism, people having a voice and for all of us to be able to put across differing views to the mainstream but he consistently plays the controversy card and loves nothing more than to stir things up. The trouble is that through The Mail he then has many readers believing that his words are truth rather than opinion.
vickster
Legendary Member
Since coronavirus hit?
It's been discussed a lot, some treatment has been halted to keep immunocompromised cancer patients out of hospitals where they might be more at risk of catching Covid, also chemotherapy especially and other treatments given to cancer patients such as corticosteroids are immunosuppressive so treatment might be delayed
Cancer patients are part of the shielded group for that reason
with specific cancers - people:
- with cancer who are undergoing active chemotherapy or radical radiotherapy for lung cancer
- with cancers of the blood or bone marrow such as leukaemia, lymphoma or myeloma who are at any stage of treatment
- having immunotherapy or other continuing antibody treatments for cancer
- having other targeted cancer treatments which can affect the immune system, such as protein kinase inhibitors or PARP inhibitors
- who have had bone marrow or stem cell transplants in the last 6 months, or who are still taking immunosuppression drugs
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Rocky
Hello decadence
Although it happens all the time.....I remember one my wife's colleagues getting a letter, which started Dear Poof Yudkin.
He kept it as a badge of honour.
Rocky
Hello decadence
Spot on!! Here's the list from Gov.uk website:
People falling into this extremely vulnerable group include:
- Solid organ transplant recipients.
- People with specific cancers:
- people with cancer who are undergoing active chemotherapy or radical radiotherapy for lung cancer
- people with cancers of the blood or bone marrow such as leukaemia, lymphoma or myeloma who are at any stage of treatment
- people having immunotherapy or other continuing antibody treatments for cancer
- people having other targeted cancer treatments which can affect the immune system, such as protein kinase inhibitors or PARP inhibitors
- people who have had bone marrow or stem cell transplants in the last 6 months, or who are still taking immunosuppression drugs
- People with severe respiratory conditions including all cystic fibrosis, severe asthma and severe COPD.
- People with rare diseases and inborn errors of metabolism that significantly increase the risk of infections (such as SCID, homozygous sickle cell).
- People on immunosuppression therapies sufficient to significantly increase risk of infection.
- Women who are pregnant with significant heart disease, congenital or acquired.
deptfordmarmoset
Full time tea drinker
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For psychological relief, a graph that goes down: the fall in the growth rate for the hardest-hit countries. (US figs thought unreliable because of a testing backlog.)
Didn't he also highlight the link between Neil Ferguson and vaccine makers during infamous swineflu episode in 2009?
It might be controversy but when proven right it looks different
(And yes, I recognize how research Grant's work nowadays, nevertheless...)
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Rocky
Hello decadence
I think if you are critiquing Ferguson, you would be better to look at his current COVID model and find weaknesses in that..........even if he had links to vaccine makers in the past, judge his work now. It seems a bit lazy to dismiss everything someone does because a link in 2009?
I’ve no idea as I don’t follow his column.
Still, if you look at his column quoted by @oldfatfool as an entire piece it lays a pretence that’s the lock down and temporary restriction on the freedoms we have been accustomed to are false.
Perhaps he should work alongside our front line health medics and write his piece from there having experienced the harrowing reality of what he feels is not worth the impact on our liberties or our economy.
Except that I didn't do it
I do not endorse most of the views of Hitchens,
I do not dismiss entire work of Ferguson
I think an important has been made by people we might not agree with that the cure should not be worse than the disease
It is very easy to criticize governments for the deaths and gloom caused by austerity in 2008, would we do the same in 2030???
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Rocky
Hello decadence
So what is your opinion on Ferguson's model? Tell us your views rather than quoting Hitchins.
Julia9054
Guru
- Location
- Knaresborough
Got a great one in an email from a yr 7 pupil.
It starts "Dear Mrs Sadness"
I assumed hilarious typo but have since had another email from the same child addressed the same. Does she think that is my name?
Many smarter people than me decided to follow it, I hope to the benefit to everyone
If we shunt all opposing voices though it is becoming ideology
Pale Rider
Legendary Member
Oo, another graph to misinterpret.
Doesn't it indicate our infection rate was in overall decline prior to lock down?
I thought it was increasing.
Rocky
Hello decadence
How much are we prepared to pay so that our elderly loved ones don't die? Death from interstitial pneumonia is like drowning over a period of 24 hrs. It's a horrible death. Our frontline NHS staff are at risk. What price would you put on these deaths? I've mentioned this before, there is a general practice round the corner from us where 30 of the 32 staff are off sick (some are very ill). Even if we decided not to lockdown, I would argue that industry would grind to a halt because of the impact of this.
It is also worth noting that almost every other country in the world is taking the same decision. Even if we decided not to lockdown, we are so dependent on others in this global age, the impact on GDP would effectively be the same. There isnt a choice.
