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Glow worm

Legendary Member
Location
Near Newmarket
I know it's the wail but interesting non the less.PETER HITCHENS: This Great Panic is foolish, yet our freedom is broken https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/...ippled.html?ito=native_share_article-masthead

Hitchens could have saved himself a lot of effort there by simply just typing 'look at what a complete tool I am' as both that, and the article lead readers to the same conclusion.
 

Unkraut

Master of the Inane Comment
Location
Germany
Hitchens could have saved himself a lot of effort there by simply just typing 'look at what a complete tool I am' as both that, and the article lead readers to the same conclusion.
I don't have the time of day for most of Hitchens' ("we've entered a Gestapo/Stasi state") commenters, but I think he genuinely cares that people are dying but that the economic damage will make this worse in the long term for the general health of the population. I think he is right to bring up reasonable dissenting opinions on how govts are reacting, but he's not convinced me.

It is important that the govt's actions are scrutinised by Parliament, and that it doesn't award itself extraordinary powers and then be unwilling to give them up again when the current emergency is over.

His view would gain more traction if the lockdown is unnecessarily prolonged, but we don't know that will be the case yet.
 

StuAff

Silencing his legs regularly
Location
Portsmouth
Hitchens has been talking total BS on this (admittedly, that's true for about 99.99 recurring % of his articles). It shouldn't be too hard for anyone to understand that 'hope for the best, prepare for the worst' would be a good idea in the current situation, but it clearly is for him....
 

roubaixtuesday

self serving virtue signaller
I don't have the time of day for most of Hitchens' ("we've entered a Gestapo/Stasi state") commenters, but I think he genuinely cares that people are dying but that the economic damage will make this worse in the long term for the general health of the population. I think he is right to bring up reasonable dissenting opinions on how govts are reacting, but he's not convinced me.

It is important that the govt's actions are scrutinised by Parliament, and that it doesn't award itself extraordinary powers and then be unwilling to give them up again when the current emergency is over.

His view would gain more traction if the lockdown is unnecessarily prolonged, but we don't know that will be the case yet.

He's flat wrong on the science he quotes to make his case.

Just utterly wrong.
 

Rezillo

TwoSheds
Location
Suffolk
He's flat wrong on the science he quotes to make his case.

Just utterly wrong.

Yep. Yet another article where the author acts like those drivers who follow their satnav instructions into a river. Clinging to information that they choose and want to believe while blind to the reality of what is around them.

Hollywood has a lot to answer for when it comes to belief in fringe views and mavericks.
 

Eziemnaik

Über Member
I don't have the time of day for most of Hitchens' ("we've entered a Gestapo/Stasi state") commenters, but I think he genuinely cares that people are dying but that the economic damage will make this worse in the long term for the general health of the population. I think he is right to bring up reasonable dissenting opinions on how govts are reacting, but he's not convinced me.

It is important that the govt's actions are scrutinised by Parliament, and that it doesn't award itself extraordinary powers and then be unwilling to give them up again when the current emergency is over.

His view would gain more traction if the lockdown is unnecessarily prolonged, but we don't know that will be the case yet.
Well, he was right about WMD and war in Iraq, exposed to the public the real mother Theresa, fought for the truth regarding Chemical attacks in Syria,
I think it is important to have voices like him
 

MarkF

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Peter Hitchens or Professor Chris Whitty. It’s a difficult choice when it comes to whose advice to believe on Covid.

The problem is not choice between Hitchens and Whitty but making "Is this worth it" a taboo subject. I have noticed journalists who dare raise this question have the online comments facility removed pdq as the pitchforks are raised and torches lit. There are plenty of qualified opinons out there who think the reaction might result in worse health consequences in the UK than the virus could produce, then we have the economic consequences to also consider.

I have noticed not much going on in the oncology depts lately, how did they slip down the ladder of importance?
 

Buck

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
I know it's the wail but interesting non the less.PETER HITCHENS: This Great Panic is foolish, yet our freedom is broken https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/...ippled.html?ito=native_share_article-masthead

Every time I’ve seen Hitchens on Question Time he has been an arse and that article is written by an opinionated buffoon who clearly doesn’t want to accept the situation, we, the country, and world are in or play his part in helping reduce the impact of Coronavirus.

Daffodil.
 

Rocky

Hello decadence
The problem is not choice between Hitchens and Whitty but making "Is this worth it" a taboo subject. I have noticed journalists who dare raise this question have the online comments facility removed pdq as the pitchforks are raised and torches lit. There are plenty of qualified opinons out there who think the reaction might result in worse health consequences in the UK than the virus could produce, then we have the economic consequences to also consider.

I have noticed not much going on in the oncology depts lately, how did they slip down the ladder of importance?
If you want economics versus epidemiology, wouldn't Andrew Sentance vs Chris Whitty be a better debate? Hitchins is paid to upset people - he is not paid to inform us.
 
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