mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
Handy tip: if you ever say "Trump is correct" then you've almost certainly either made a mistake in your logic or misheard what Trump said.
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mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
Mutation of the virus is another possible way out, to something less lethal, possibly more contagious, hopefully giving immunity against the troublesome strain. IIRC that's basically how the 1918 flu crisis ended.
Johnno260
Guru
- Location
- East Sussex
When she was admitted it was negative, but now as the next bed is a confirmed case we are waiting on the retest.
oldfatfool
Guru
Scary I would have thought they would test first and isolate wards with and without, we have to believe that the nurses are currently taking even more precautions than usual when moving between patients and wards which leaves us with things like air conditioning, showing how allowing normal business factories and the like to restart or in some cases continue is stupid, unless absolutely essential.
Johnno260
Guru
- Location
- East Sussex
Look at some bosses attitudes especially in the USA, GameStop is telling employees to work and if they have an issue use plastic bags on your hands.
CanucksTraveller
Macho Business Donkey Wrestler
- Location
- Hertfordshire
Scary?
Literally 30 minutes ago you said it was a load of old bollocks dreamed up to get us all on ID cards, now you're worrying about nurses and people working in air conditioned factories. Which is it, bollocks or scary?
vickster
Legendary Member
And how would you do that without some sort of ID card to enforce?
or was your earlier assertion that these are a good idea?
oldfatfool
Guru
I said the lock down was bollocks, and this proves it, either we need to a have lock down or we don't. If they want everyone to stop in and stop all social activity then how can going to work in non essential industry be justified? If the disease is spreading in sterile environments then it must have a transmission for eg air on which is in factories. To this extent travelling in a car or walking in the country is not going to spread the disease. I get this flattening the curve bit, but the people who have died so far have either had medical attention or been denied it and told to remain in isolation, so to an extent the lock down and measures taken could have actually exascabated the problem. Another thing I am not happy about is the selective testing and reporting, at least 20 folk have been off self isolating from work. OK some will be swinging led but some will be genuine, they aren't part of the statistic.
Air con you will find many hospitals wards don't have any other than the odd window.
If they are lucky it's mostly in the theatres and the odd office of course.
I was shocked to hear that only now is Trump considering prohibiting non-essential travel in NY and other heavily hit areas - with what's been playing out there for days, WTAF? Generally (by pretty much any metric) the US appears far more cut-throat than most other places; lives being worth far less than profit.
As for all the conspiratorial stuff; I like to keep an open mind and think from the way things have gone over the past 50yrs it's clear that governments are actively pursuing an agenda to surveil and restrict the liberties of their citizens.
Just like any other opportunity I expect them to attempt to manipulate this situation to similar ends; although I think it's 95% outside their control and their actions are opportunistic rather than anything more premeditated. I don't think that in this case their desire for control outweighs the damage that's being done to an economic system that already appears to serve them well in lining their pockets and consoledating their existing positions of control and priviledge.
The reason we have more control over our private lives than our "professional" ones is precisely for this reason - a money-focussed government attempting to minimise economic damage while retaining an "acceptable" amount of deaths.
From an Orwellian perspective I think the most sinister purpose this pandemic could serve is to test / illustrate how people react to the imposition of such tight restrictions; which could then be used for less justifiable actions in future.
Judging by our situation so far as well as in comparson to Italy, the suggestion that our numbers might peak in a week's time is absolute fantasy IMO. In my totally unqualified opinion I'm thinking maybr 4-5wks until peak, 3-4wks for the the number of infections to fall to a point where greater levels of social interaction are considered justified. So yeah maybe 8 more weeks of "lockdown" brings us to the beginning of June.
Then, after all that there's the very real possibility of it happening all over again following another outbreak; although hopefully under such circumstances greater experience / knowledge, faster action and an existing level of immunity (to an extent) might limits its severity, rate of spread and duration. Repeated instances like this are inevitable IMO until it's either worked it's way through everyone, mutated to become less dangerous or we obtain a vaccine.
A widely available test would help in allowing those who are (hopefully!) immune to operate in key roles unrestricted, which would hopefully give us a bit more control over the situation but would do little to protect the vulnerable on a personal level.
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winjim
Smash the cistern
Offices are the last place you'd find AC in an NHS hospital. We've got AC in the entire lab as we've got analysers kicking out loads of heat, and temperature sensitive reagents. But can we get it installed in our boiling hot / freezing cold office? No chance.
Archie_tect
De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
- Location
- Northumberland
The US must be preparing for a massive spike... lots of empty words from Trump show he doesn't get it yet.
Mo1959
Legendary Member
- Location
- Perthshire,Scotland
He appears to be almost in denial doesn't he!
winjim
Smash the cistern
I don't blame the beancounters in the trust. It goes higher than that.That's because your not a beancounter
