Coronavirus outbreak

[marinyork]

Who doesn’t wash their hands after going to the toilet (or urinating/defecating)...one of the reasons why men urinating outside is revolting wherever it is, how do you wash your hands afterwards?

Quite a small minority of people that's nevertheless important in terms of flu and norovirus spread. It isn't an age, gender, cultural or anything else thing. A minority don't a fair bit of the time. Same with handling pets. Same with eating. Same with anything.

At the other end of the scale are people who do wash their hands very thoroughly indeed, but don't do it very often and government advice is trying to deal with that too.

 

[Mo1959]

Quite a small minority of people that's nevertheless important in terms of flu and norovirus spread. It isn't an age, gender, cultural or anything else thing. A minority don't a fair bit of the time. Same with handling pets. Same with eating. Same with anything.

At the other end of the scale are people who do wash their hands very thoroughly indeed, but don't do it very often and government advice is trying to deal with that too.

Have to admit I don't wash my hands after handling my cat. However she is purely an indoor cat so doesn't bring any nasties in from outside. Obviously if I do something like scoop the litter tray, I do it then.

 

[vickster]

Quite a small minority of people that's nevertheless important in terms of flu and norovirus spread. It isn't an age, gender, cultural or anything else thing. A minority don't a fair bit of the time. Same with handling pets. Same with eating. Same with anything.

At the other end of the scale are people who do wash their hands very thoroughly indeed, but don't do it very often and government advice is trying to deal with that too.

What do all the male cyclists on the forum do after they've popped behind a bush?

 

[Mugshot]

That's the queue going out of the car park for McDs drive through as of 5 mins ago.

 

[Julia9054]

Currently planning a climbing wall for the side of the garage with my son who is home from uni and missing his climbing gym. He can teach me to climb - make my arms as awesome as my legs and stop me going bonkers if it turns out I am stuck in the house for 12 weeks!

 

[marinyork]

What do all the male cyclists on the forum do after they've popped behind a bush?

We're not playing that one . A lot of people actually try and avoid that and go to toilets on rides. And funnily enough complain about substandard hand washing facilities.

The handwashing advice is there for the stated reasons that a lot of people don't do it and you are boorishly and obtusely picking on a very small subset of activities in the middle of a world pandemic. Go and set up your own thread about peeing in bushes and not washing hands in some other bit of the forum - if you find that concerning or gross or worrying or humourous or badass or whatever.

 

[randynewmanscat]

I think the advice on gloves is that they are near pointless - a better vector for transmission than your bare hands and less able to be washed.

I believe it's rather recommended to ensure you wash your hands often, and immediately after returning home. Eg from the Independent and well sourced:

I have to drive to pick up food supplies, it is 13km to nearest shops. A friend and I discussed the various lengths necessary to avoid taking unwanted passengers home. Apart from the packaging that may have been handled by other shoppers minutes previously to you we came to the conclusion that car keys and once inside the car the controls, steering wheel etc would be a possible store for covid 19.
In the car you let down your guard, people pick their noses or rub their eyes. Last Wednesday was the last time I shopped and I had to train myself to keep my mitts off my face until my return home, I actually found it easier than I thought it would be.
The next time I shop I am going to hang a small bottle of alcohol gel wash off a belt loop and the moment I store the trolley in its bay I will be washing my hands with the gel before touching my car keys or unlocking my car.
Whether that procedure will increase my protection I cannot say but at the least it will keep the need to be vigilant in the front of my mind.
As for vinyl examination gloves, I would say if you remove and bin them immediately after your last presumed hazardous interaction and they have not touched any of you or your belongings then I would say they are effective, it is the way you use them that is of importance. Even taking a pair off, the first glove is easy, the second glove not so easy without the contamination of finger or thumb removing it.

 

[vickster]

We're not playing that one . A lot of people actually try and avoid that and go to toilets on rides. And funnily enough complain about substandard hand washing facilities.

The handwashing advice is there for the stated reasons that a lot of people don't do it and you are boorishly and obtusely picking on a very small subset of activities in the middle of a world pandemic. Go and set up your own thread about peeing in bushes and not washing hands in some other bit of the forum - if you find that concerning or gross or worrying or humourous or badass or whatever.

It was a question

 

[Dave7]

Currently planning a climbing wall for the side of the garage with my son who is home from uni and missing his climbing gym. He can teach me to climb - make my arms as awesome as my legs and stop me going bonkers if it turns out I am stuck in the house for 12 weeks!

Blimey, you must have a big garage

 

[tom73]

What do all the male cyclists on the forum do after they've popped behind a bush?

Adjust my bibs

 

[tom73]

Blimey, you must have a big garage

Or scared of heights

 

[Mugshot]

@Mugshot @Pale Rider
The big problem with McD and employment ever since the early days. Is it's wide use of the franchise model so not one big solution and unpicking who your employer is and who is responsible for what. They don't have a great record with government payout. When Cameron did the old "look we have big names backing key skills education for workers". They handed over funding some payed for staff if they went on courses. McD pocketed it and spent it on in house training.

I happen to have some level of experience with McDs, my son works there as does his partner.
My son is on an 8 hour contract, he has worked for McDs for years and throughout that time has, on a number of occasions, asked that they put him on a contract that reflects the hours he actually works, full time, they haven't and wouldn't. He has worked his way through various rungs of the McD management ladder and was about to get his promotion to become a salaried member of management, however, due to the situation the final part of the training program was cancelled and his promotion suspended, so he remains on an 8 hour contract. His girlfriend is on a zero hour contract, despite having worked full time hours virtually since she started around 2 years ago.
Currently, as I understand it, if you are on a zero hour contract (or any other) there is not an entitlement to 80% of your average earnings over any time frame, but I would be interested in knowing for certain. If you don't know the answer, as indeed was eventually revealed, "friends" that are happy on zero hour, McDs coffee being really quite tasty or the implication that there is a lack of research on my part are, with all due respect, irrelevant.

 

[randynewmanscat]

Who doesn’t wash their hands after going to the toilet (or urinating/defecating)...one of the reasons why men urinaring outside is revolting wherever it is, how do you wash your hands afterwards?

Grossly enough, far too many people. I have seen enough people walking straight out of the No2 trap and out of the door without pausing at the wash sinks, truly disgusting.
I'm not Howard Hughes level OCD but years ago I took to carrying wipes or small tissues to navigate my way through the dreaded door handles of buildings. I never used handrails on stairs and got pulled over several times by zealous site managers or safety officers for not having a hand on the rail while ascending or descending stairs. I don't like norovirus it makes me feel pretty awful.
Bar snacks in bowls, pub ice, I just do not touch.

 

[Smudge]

Just had to go in town for something that had to be done. Town center was quieter than usual, but still plenty of people about and going in and out of non essential shops like Sports Direct.
Roads were quieter than usual though, so it was nice to be on my ebike.
I should imagine that hand cream is going to be in demand, my hands are dry as feck with all this handwashing.

 

[LCpl Boiled Egg]

Who doesn’t wash their hands after going to the toilet (or urinating/defecating)/QUOTE]

I could give you a list of people at my place of work...