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Johnno260

Guru
Location
East Sussex
Browsing hours are a spectacularly misguided idea. I hope that is goes all right.

I'm a bit curious about Dave's idea because a lot of councils have loading bans in the early hours of Sunday morning which need temporarily lifting, if this is happening could just ask the government to extend 6 hour sunday trading restrictions to 7 hours.

my understanding is you can load your trolly but not pay until official opening.
I could be wrong.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire


Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr FFS
The only thing that saved my computer from going out the window is use Apple and no way are they worth one.
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
my understanding is you can load your trolly but not pay until official opening.
I could be wrong.

Yes, it's a legally grey area that supermarkets that are complete dumbasses have used for years and generally shy away from without putting things in place and limiting to shorter time periods. The supermarket I used to work in did it unregulated. That's why I know it's a spectacularly stupid idea. It is. They only did it for half an hour and it got banned by one store manager as it caused so many problems.

It leads to bad temperedness, it leads to huge queues, trolley fights, aggression, daft goings on in the car parks, it interferes with stocking up, it's often before shop floor or checkout staff arrive which leads to queries that often can't be answered.

I also have my doubts about what NHS ID will be accepted. A lot of pharmacy staff have smart cards despite being nothing to do with the NHS so you may get community pharmacists and all and sundry sneaking in.

Drastic Dave's misguided. He doesn't have to deal with it, it'll be the staff. He needs to get onto Boris and Rishi and ask for restrictions on deliveries and an hour's extra opening. Extra hour opening and put things in place, it might work. Browsing idea. Very bad idea indeed.
 

Mo1959

Legendary Member
I think many young people are not caring so much about this virus, as its mostly older people that will die from it. There's also the fact that many young people blame older people for the environmental state of the planet. They also blame them for having it easier financially when they were younger, certainly for house buying. And now that there is a large ageing population, its younger people having to pay for their care through taxes etc.
This, rightly or wrongly, has gone some way to create animosity in how many young people view older people. So there will be those young people that believe that this pandemic won't be dangerous to them, and they selfishly don't care that much about social distancing or the implications of ignoring it.
But young people have been dying from it, some even as young as in their 20's. But its a tiny number compared to older people. There's also the fact that they are not taking seriously the implications of society falling apart and how far this may go.
They also forget it was people my age and older that scrimped by while paying mortgages in double figure interest rates and did without other things. They didn’t want a new tv or any other gadget each time a new one came out, or wanted to jump in a plane once or twice a year for a holiday. I am sick of the older generation being maligned and everything having to revolve around youngsters now. I presume they realise they will get old too! :wacko:
 

Buck

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
@marinyork - browsing isn't a bad idea or indeed a very bad idea. It allows people to do there shopping. The only difference is that they cannot go through the checkout/POS until the stores official opening time.

Whilst we are in unchartered waters and people have shown their true colours these last few days, I still don't feel that this will be the car-crash you paint. The challenge will be having the stock on the shelves for them all to purchase.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
my understanding is you can load your trolly but not pay until official opening.
I could be wrong.

Yes that's how it works it's the same as when shops on Sundays have open for "browsing" from 9. So the real time time is still within the set hours. The till won't let anyone though them until 10.
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
@marinyork - browsing isn't a bad idea or indeed a very bad idea. It allows people to do there shopping. The only difference is that they cannot go through the checkout/POS until the stores official opening time.

Whilst we are in unchartered waters and people have shown their true colours these last few days, I still don't feel that this will be the car-crash you paint. The challenge will be having the stock on the shelves for them all to purchase.

I know perfectly well what browsing is. I worked in a store that implemented it on a Sunday. You know this so I would appreciate it if you didn't misrepresent what I wrote.

The whole point of browsing is that it's a pretence. People cannot go through the checkout until the official opening time, they get bored, they argue, they harass staff and start shouting. You aren't supposed to seek help or 'serve' people before the official opening time. Guess what, as soon as people are in store they don't pay any attention to this, they make a beeline for GM cabinets and start shouting and staff saying I want to see that iphone or cable. Why you choose not to see this I have no idea. Browsing problems can be mitigated with higher staffing numbers and a very firm line and security. These aren't normal times.

Browsing hours also interfere with stocking the shelves. Staffing levels even when opening on a Sunday are run insanely low on things like fresh, grocery and dry goods. You don't want any extra people in the shop.
 

MontyVeda

a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
It's certainly a lot harder to restock my shop once it's open... even before all this happened. Thankfully we start a lot earlier than opening time so can get 70% of it on the shelves before 8am. The rest is taking about four times longer though; can't move for trollies!
 

Buck

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
No misrepresentation from me.

I know what exactly you mean, having spent 23 years in food retail (albeit some of that was pre-Sunday trading) I’m well aware of some people’s less than commendable behaviours at times.

From replenishment perspective the main challenge will be the fresh deliveries as these often didn’t arrive I store until 7-8am on a Sunday. Perhaps a relaxing of opening hours would help but there’s still the logistics getting the stock into the stores let alone the replenishment.
 

Smudge

Veteran
Location
Somerset
They also forget it was people my age and older that scrimped by while paying mortgages in double figure interest rates and did without other things. They didn’t want a new tv or any other gadget each time a new one came out, or wanted to jump in a plane once or twice a year for a holiday. I am sick of the older generation being maligned and everything having to revolve around youngsters now. I presume they realise they will get old too! :wacko:

Indeed, but they will only see it from their point of view.
At 17 i was living in a bedsit and would eek out my low wages by only living on Marmite sandwiches, had no tv and most of the time I couldn't afford to go out socialising. Not many young uns would do that now.
I wont go on, for fear of sounding like a Monty Python sketch.
 
Location
Hampshire
Just spoke to my next door neighbour, she works for Ageas insurance. Say's she could easily work from home and has done in the past but they've been told they've all got to continue going into the office, judging by the size of they're office complex that's got to be a few hundred people.
 

Dave7

Legendary Member
Location
Cheshire
Owners of limited companies avoiding tax don't need support... this is how the haves make sure they keep the money flowing in, even at times of desperation and national emergency. It's an unintended consequence of knee-jerk politics.
Archie. Unless you have run a company you really shouldnt make such comments.
I ran a small limited company for some years. I had all the stress of keeping 5 lads employed and paid. I had companies rip me off for £10k, £20k and £35 grand but had to keep going. No government help for me.
2 sides to (almost) everything
 
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