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deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
Think you mean unboxing 👍
While these guys are just asking for it....
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Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
Location
Inside my skull
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AuroraSaab

Veteran
We eat in Wetherspoons a lot, and I meet friends there for the cheap coffee. I will usually happily defend them, but my God, that Tim Martin is being a humongous bellend currently. I might be boycotting them when this is all over.
 

RecordAceFromNew

Swinging Member
Location
West London
The problem is it causes panic and stockpiling of masks which may have consequences for medics.

Are you suggesting they are likely beneficial but our government lie, so that more may be available to medics, while if they had been conscientious and proactive they would have stockpiled them en-masse cheaply beforehand?

Think masks/respirators of all kinds were sold out in shops, at regular prices that is, about two weeks ago in UK. I wouldn't be surprised if practically all are imported.
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
Pubs in the city centre are packed apparently. From a friend who has been in a few and I won't be seeing him for a while or won't be seeing him for a while...
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
Are you suggesting they are likely beneficial but our government lie, so that more may be available to medics, while if they had been conscientious and proactive they would have stockpiled them en-masse cheaply beforehand?

Think masks/respirators of all kinds were sold out in shops, at regular prices that is, about two weeks ago in UK. I wouldn't be surprised if practically all are imported.

I've not read the government's nudge unit or behavioural stuff that other people have put up. It isn't just the UK that's had this problem. I don't have the stomach to read all the stuff coming out of Washington State or California these days, but it looks like other countries have problems. I've no idea why there are quite so many masks (where mask is a generic word for mask and respirator) in Italy, but there are.

I do think in general that yes a lot of government's policy is motivated from not getting people to panic.

Masks and respirators are highly beneficial to medics and probably for other staff interacting with the public such as pharmacies, shops and for patients who have the virus. 8.3% of all positive cases are medics in Italy. They help get the infection rate down outside the home (or within if people were wearing them inside) which all adds up.

I work from the assumption that there aren't enough in the UK for mass wearing, so what's the best use of them? If they weren't in short supply, yes people would be wearing them routinely when going out. Well I said would...

Speaking generally in Italy, schools were closed early on, masks worn by high percentage of the population. It's not clear at all and to be determined by others that these two measures were particularly effective regrettably.

I also think people don't play a blind bit of notice to what people say and I have no idea why you think they do, again citing Italy as an example - it took 5 bites of the cherry. People are laughing at Boris with let's call it two sets of soft measures so far and closures today. Even Germany which I know a lot less about seems to be getting annoyed and saying Monday it's more measures if this doesn't work.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Been out with dog and I’m angry as f.. the local posh wine shop. Is only having its weekly wine evening for its select customers. They are all packed in and most are of risk age.

After all what been said today. It’s just utterly beyond words. Clearly too posh to care When I spotted it I just thought my wife’s on the front line having to deal with this. I so felt like going in and telling them all to get the f... of home.
 

Unkraut

Master of the Inane Comment
Location
Germany
I just thought my wife’s on the front line having to deal with this. I so felt like going in and telling them all to get the f... of home.
I think you would have been well within your rights to have done so. The fewer social contacts, the quicker it will be to get on top of this pandemic - meanwhile sparing the healthcare system from overload.
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
I think you would have been well within your rights to have done so. The fewer social contacts, the quicker it will be to get on top of this pandemic - meanwhile sparing the healthcare system from overload.

I think there needs to be more government/other information from organisations or people about things to do other than pubs/restaurants/shopping.

Classic example is parkrun. Yes you can't have hundreds of people congregating, but the places existed before parkrun and are often common meeting places. If people are getting out doing things outdoors in 2s and 3s and sticking to the same circles/family, in other words a bit like the CDMO was saying people with similar risk levels then that's a good thing.

Also things other than buying disney's streaming service or pornhub.
 

Proto

Legendary Member
DiL is a paediatrician (Devon) and somewhat frustrated that they have some healthy babies that can be discharged but cannot do so as there is no formula available in the local shops, thus denying some sick babies the care they need. Quite unbelievable. 🙁

PS and not a single face mask available for staff. On their way, apparently. 3 days now.
 

Proto

Legendary Member
Eldest daughter is a uni senior lecturer, physiotherapy. Uni is closed (although working online). She has been asked to return to big hospital to help hold the fort. Happy to do so but uni and hospital can’t agree who should pay her sick pay if she end up sick or self isolating (I think that’s the scenario 😟). Seems a bit ridiculous.
 
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Proto

Legendary Member
PPS another daughter is a speech and language therapist, head & neck, (cancer, laryngectomies etc), big hospital. No face mask there either, last few days. 🙁
 
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