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MarkF

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
PPS Another daughter is a speech and language therapist, head & neck, (cancer, laryngectomies etc), big hospital. No face mask there either, last few days. 🙁

Yes, but at my work the shortage appears to be self Inflicted. On my first virus focused shift & after my briefing l thought "Eh? This makes no sense, l am going to get through 50/60 masks a shift". There are 12 porters in 24 hours...
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
well it was going to happen no cricket until May at earliest. :sad:
starting later not going to easy fear they will just focus on the money games and forget the rest.:sad:
https://www.ecb.co.uk/news/1647413/ecb-announces-delay-to-professional-cricket-season
 

Rezillo

TwoSheds
Location
Suffolk
Well, two rather different takes on the same thing:

https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/southwold-and-aldeburgh-second-homeowners-coronavirus-1-6570078

Ian Bradbury, town mayor of Southwold, expressed his concern that the influx was also impact[ing] on the supply of food and other commodities.

He said: “The second homeowners are already here and there will be more tomorrow. They should think about the impact they will leave on our town. The shelves in shops have been devastated in the last 24 hours.”

He added: “This virus is going to get all of us and the death toll modelling in Suffolk is alarming. Southwold is no safer place than anywhere else.”


or there's this:

https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/southwold-second-homes-coronavirus-isolation-1-6570538

"Councillor David Beavan, who represents Southwold on East Suffolk Council, said visitors to the town were “always welcome." He said: “They are clearing out the shops, but that is a pretty good thing for our businesses.

“Some people are panic buying and that isn’t helping, and we are trying to get things rationed by asking local shops to keep back some essentials like toilet rolls so they don’t all disappear, but people are quite entitled to buy things".

To confirm that Southwold has been invaded by a bunch of grossly irresponsible second home-owning idiots:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-51966938
 

Buck

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Well here's another question.....retired medics going back to work in the NHS, will they get death in service benefits of existing staff? Very pertinent because many are coming from an at risk group. I do hope Hancock has thought this through.

A lot of retirees are also in their early to mid-50s so not so old! Not underplaying any risk and great that they can and are able to help.
 

midlife

Guru
PPS another daughter is a speech and language therapist, head & neck, (cancer, laryngectomies etc), big hospital. No face mask there either, last few days. 🙁

Off topic but I work in head and neck cancer arena and the speech and language therapists are fab :smile:. I guess I'll be in the big hospital soon. Can't complain as I take the King's shilling..
 

Proto

Legendary Member
Off topic but I work in head and neck cancer arena and the speech and language therapists are fab :smile:. I guess I'll be in the big hospital soon. Can't complain as I take the King's shilling..

She is fab! The loveliest young woman you could wish to meet. Yet, another is a police officer (and ex-pro cyclist). Son is civil engineering lecturer at a college in Devon.

So proud of them all. Really love my kids.

Tonight, as my wife and I are in self isolation, we had ‘Friday Night Dinner’ using Zoom Meeting software, each household cooked and laid a table, set up our laptops and socialised over the web. Worked really well!
 
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Joey Shabadoo

My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
I also think people don't play a blind bit of notice to what people say and I have no idea why you think they do, again citing Italy as an example - it took 5 bites of the cherry. People are laughing at Boris with let's call it two sets of soft measures so far and closures today.

I'm fuming tonight. My kid sister is a nursing assistant at Ninewells. As someone working in a hospital, my parents have had to tell her repeatedly that they couldn't meet her for dinner or go out shopping as both are in their 70s and my father has COPD. Tonight she's out partying, posting vids of her and her friends getting smashed in packed pubs. "Woo hoo - party time!".

I'm farking livid.
 

PK99

Legendary Member
Location
SW19
I think you would have been well within your rights to have done so. The fewer social contacts, the quicker it will be to get on top of this pandemic - meanwhile sparing the healthcare system from overload.

The way to stop the disgraceful behaviours is to make those doing it social pariahs - name and shame - disrupt the event.
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-03-20...nhs-staff-for-coronavirus-available-in-weeks/

some positive news someone's working on a mobile qPCR test kit. Every hospital in the land could have one of these. 1250 hospitals x batch 16 x 10 cycles per day = 200,000 samples per day.

This is such good news that the government need detailed plans on how to distribute them and prevent obvious bottlenecks. Even how to deal with all the data if implemented properly. If both sides the pcr and antibody side work out they may even need a national covid-19 database.
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
I'm fuming tonight. My kid sister is a nursing assistant at Ninewells. As someone working in a hospital, my parents have had to tell her repeatedly that they couldn't meet her for dinner or go out shopping as both are in their 70s and my father has COPD. Tonight she's out partying, posting vids of her and her friends getting smashed in packed pubs. "Woo hoo - party time!".

I'm farking livid.

Repeated on a grand scale. Unfortunately a lot of the conditions listed as being at risk are common.

I got a closing time telephone call from a friend telling me about how busy the pub was and asking if I wanted to go out next Friday? Where? Someone random person's house. I probs can't see him for a while, doing too many things for my parents. In fairness he does think it's too late to implement anything and we're all doomed (although he thinks the death toll will be a lot lower than my estimates).
 

Unkraut

Master of the Inane Comment
Location
Germany
My boy has just come in brandishing his phone now listing the provisions and coming into effect of the anti-infection legislation. Effective midnight.

You can still use public highways to get to shops and other things necessary for daily life, but basically everything else is now prohibited. It is still possible to go for walks in the country, but either alone, or as a couple (with children), but under no circumstances to meet with other people, and always to keep the 1.50 metre apart rule. This will all be in force provisionally until 3rd April. Basically the same as Bavaria.

This was invoked with some regret, and the town mayor said most of the population had been keeping the existing restrictions admirably - except some young people were tending to congregate in too large a number, with the risk to them and the rest of the population. The police have been empowered to enforce the restrictions.
 

Mugshot

Cracking a solo.
My wife works in a care home, they had a Tesco delivery today and the gaffer had ordered the max that he could (the rationing amounts are automatic on the online ordering system apparently) of various items, so, 5 packs of 18/24 bog rolls, they got 1 pack of 6. There are 15 residents in the home.
Little update to this, apparently they've had loads donated by various kind hearted souls, so they're sorted now :smile:

However, her boss went to get a click and collect today and was have a general moan to the fella sorting it with him about the things they couldn't get etc etc, the Tesco fella, with the customers name covered of course, showed him the note for the next customer due, they had ordered (and had refused) £75.00 worth of toilet roll!
 

RecordAceFromNew

Swinging Member
Location
West London
"Medics are warning that numbers are doubling every three or four days and that the NHS in London will be treating “thousands” of people with the disease within a fortnight.

Unpublished NHS figures obtained by the Guardian show that the number of people confirmed or suspected to have Covid-19 being treated in an intensive care unit (ICU) in hospitals in south London rose from seven on Friday 6 March to 93 on Tuesday 17 March – a fifteenfold increase in 12 days.

Doctors are worried that 86 of the 93 cases last Tuesday were on a ventilator... 82 of the 86 required level three care, in which they are anaesthetised and have a tube put down their throat and the ventilator takes over the work of their lungs while they are unconscious. The remaining 4 require ECMO*... the highest level of medical intervention the NHS can provide to try to keep alive someone whose lungs have failed. It involves taking blood out of their body, adding oxygen to it and putting it back in again.

The NHS and government have not published any figures showing how many people with Covid-19 are receiving critical care, even though Public Health England (PHE) now collects them each day from all 134 acute hospital trusts in England.

PHE and NHS England refused a Guardian request to see the latest data for both London and England as a whole because it was “still experimental” and involved some “quality” issues.

One doctor warned that it was only a matter of time before hospitals in London ran out of intensive care beds and had to start making difficult decisions about which patients could go on a ventilator.

Doctors also raised concerns about widespread shortages of the personal protective equipment needed to treat Covid-19 patients, given how infectious the disease is. “We are out of visors and masks are constantly running out in different locations,” said one."

Last week didn't they say the plan involves 60% of the population catching it?

* there are only 30 ECMO beds in the whole country
 
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