Coronavirus outbreak

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marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
It crossed my mind as I was posting that they too will be under enormous strain, from both likely staff shortages and the sheer volume of calls.

Absolutely. There may be a lag as some services people feel all right until something goes wrong and support that is no longer there or just don't know where to look for info. I volunteed on-line. I'm not sure how many different organisations have transitioned to other tech options such as phone lines being done from home instead of a central location, face to face support becoming phone, face to face support being video conferencing etc (the latter for me).

P.S. I really did see a lot of services announcing on social media that the phone line/groups/whatever had ended. Transitioned less sure about.
 

nickyboy

Norven Mankey
Oh, maybe we don't drink much in Kendal as our local supermarket booze shelves have looked ok - unlike the toilet rolls, fresh meats blah, blah, blah.

I guess they're all going to get stripped tomorrow!
Spent many a happy night in the Queens in my youth (I used to own a house in Stricklandgate). One day, when all this comes to an end, I'll tell the story of how I was banned for life from the New Inn
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
I fear you are right. There’s no easy answer to all this.

It will be happening tonight on the way home.

Booze is the best bit of a supermarket to work in my opinion. Instead of having people threatening to punch your lights out as there's no bog roll you become someone's 'best friend' if you genuinely think there might be some booze in the back or a delivery just coming in :laugh:.
 

Fab Foodie

hanging-on in quiet desperation ...
Location
Kirton, Devon.
Oh, maybe we don't drink much in Kendal as our local supermarket booze shelves have looked ok - unlike the toilet rolls, fresh meats blah, blah, blah.

I guess they're all going to get stripped tomorrow!
Last Friday, all the boxes of cheap lager gone..
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Joey Shabadoo

My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
This Chancellor is coming across very well.
I was reading an article on the Beeb site today that says that isolation measures may be switched on and off to control infection rates and I have to confess to it feeling slightly disturbing that I'm part of a population that is being proactively manipulated. :ohmy:

I kinda get that. If you take it as read that most people are going to catch this and it's important to keep the flow into the NHS at manageable levels it makes sense to control that flow by controlling the number of people getting infected. All the while keeping the most vulnerable isolated until a vaccine is available.

My wife and I expect her to be staying indoors for the rest of the year and we think we've devised a regime we can bring in when things are relaxed enough for me to go to work.
 

nickyboy

Norven Mankey

Joey Shabadoo

My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
There are nearly 80,000 A&E admissions for "unintentional injuries" relating to alcohol (I presume this means falling over etc) every year.

https://digital.nhs.uk/data-and-inf...statistical/statistics-on-alcohol/2019/part-1

I guess we will see a big reduction of these on the front line as "home drinking" feels much less susceptible than pub drinking which should take some pressure off A&E staff too?

Also less fighting in the streets and drunk driving
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
This Chancellor is coming across very well.

I kinda get that. If you take it as read that most people are going to catch this and it's important to keep the flow into the NHS at manageable levels it makes sense to control that flow by controlling the number of people getting infected. All the while keeping the most vulnerable isolated until a vaccine is available.

On/off just reflect cases starting to come back rapidly or 2nd peak in winter. Or that we don't know what'll happen. Italy a good case in point, we're watching that country and the figures today are absolutely catastrophic. Better news from China no new cases again, but importing cases (and apparently picking them up).
 
Location
London
On/off just reflect cases starting to come back rapidly or 2nd peak in winter. Or that we don't know what'll happen. Italy a good case in point, we're watching that country and the figures today are absolutely catastrophic. Better news from China no new cases again, but importing cases (and apparently picking them up).
It's been asked before but does anyone believe the figures from china?
they are saying zero apart from in folk arrived from abroad?
sounds very hard to believe to me.
 

newfhouse

Resolutely on topic
If you take it as read that most people are going to catch this and it's important to keep the flow into the NHS at manageable levels it makes sense to control that flow by controlling the number of people getting infected.
Do you think anyone has meaningful control of the infection rate? I bet there are all sorts of unforeseen inputs, hysteresis, and latency issues that make it near impossible. Even if there is a joystick, who would you trust to be in the pilot’s seat?
 

Joey Shabadoo

My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
Do you think anyone has meaningful control of the infection rate? I bet there are all sorts of unforeseen inputs, hysteresis, and latency issues that make it near impossible. Even if there is a joystick, who would you trust to be in the pilot’s seat?

I think they can in the overall scheme of things. Total isolation* would mean zero new infections, no isolation at all would mean X new infections. If they can keep a broad handle on it, maybe they can more or less control it.

* I know total isolation isn't possible.

I'm not an expert and I readily defer to those with real expertise on this board, but I'm not a particularly stupid man and I'd hope I could work things out.
 

RoadRider400

Some bloke that likes cycling alone
True only right thing to do think it's payback time for banks after bail out.
To some extent they are bailing out the banks again indirectly. By ensuring most people have enough money to pay their credit card bills. Not to say I disagree with what they are doing because I think its bloody brilliant.
 
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