delb0y
Legendary Member
- Location
- Quedgeley, Glos
I keep thinking that any day now the panic-buyers will have filled their boots and then the rest of us can carry on as normal. But it doesn't seem to be happening yet.
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nickyboy
Norven Mankey
- Location
- You want hills? We got hills
It's same in Italy and Spain. No cycling. I presume you can cycle to buy your food or go to work. But that's it. I have a friend in Sicily, she is running to the shops for food as her exercise
For those in UK you need to stop the big group rides and swerve the café stop
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
I'm not allowed to put links on SystmOne and I don't have my doctor's email. I wonder if the previous poster does.
- Location
- London
My understanding was that it isn't allowed in italy - i posted a story about a chap nabbed by police in samassi sardinia a few days ago.
In deed it don't take much but can mean the world some. I've just check on one of mine known her for years grow up with her kids. Just called round to see how was and if she needed anything. Had a good idea she was well prepared. Turns out she is so quick call ended up being 3 hours. Turned out she's has a bit of bad time the last few months top it all off tomorrow would have been her 47th wedding anniversary. I just let her chat away she's not many folk to talk things over with , well not ones she feels comfortable with.
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
If government closes them, they would have more of a case from compensation. Much cheaper to bankrupt them. The big chains will probably survive, but what about small indies?
- Location
- London
Been thinking this for a couple of weeks.
Visited mum recently.
Hope to see again.
May need to return to help her with stuff.
So does seem to me that it would be best if i got it and dealt with it.
Anyone see anything wrong with this logic??
Agree with you about testing.
Uk approach on testing appears to make little sense on several levels.
Only reason i can see for it is that boris and his bunch have so crippled the nhs that it isn't capable of doing anything else.
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
I don't. Ageist pigs. What about the rest of us who don't want to be shopping amid panic buyers, scrums and punch ups?
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
Nobody seems quite sure how likely it is to catch it a second time?
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
Enough that the local showroom is out of stock of all models, from what I was told today by the chap fixing my oven.
- Location
- London
Not found a transcript, but this was dealt with a in the press conference by Vallance and Witty. Be interesting to read it.
Basically they thought the media line was cobblers. You can catch something a second time, even with Herd immunity, but it's rare.
Witty emphasized as said in previous diagrams and advice used back going as far as January that immunity wasn't permanent, but that it might be for months say, that may or may not cover the second surge in the winter as modelled (and seen in previous pandemics/flu seasons). Or it might last longer if you're lucky. Something along those lines. Witty/Vallance said there was evidence - they had evidence getting it protects someone.
- Location
- London
Thanks. That tallies with the idea i had.
So on balance it seems a good idea for folk who are confident of their health to get it and isolate at the first signs of anything.
Pale Rider
Legendary Member
In previous advice, this is one of the issues that is modelled to reduce the peak, I think actually may have even been one of the most effective measures. It's going to happen anyway. Without a quicker/more widely applied test (see later), there are some issues around that, especially with health workers.
Not to be controversially getting everyone to be nice to everyone, but actually there is pretty much agreement across the board. The differences are cultural ones or how governments are run. The UK's advice doesn't really conflict with anything people have said about singapore or hong kong. Where the difference lies is that as in Italy, the social distancing and lockdown was widely ignored. Very widely ignored. So widely ignored in fact that it's quite interesting that peeps keep on posting about you're allowed to go out for a bike ride. I wonder why that is! This is probably not a point missed by our leaders, but is one missed multiple times by people on this thread who keep on yelling social distancing to everything and that it'll somehow magically work or that people pay attention. No one out there pays any attention to what's written here and not really too much to what Boris or anyone else says.
The disagreement is the 1 peak vs 2 or multiple peaks. For some reason and some deus ex machina some people here think after 1 peak that's it. Vallance/Witty (and actually if you watch some Italian tv it even says this on there occasionally) think they'll be 2 peaks. It's just Italy is so up shoot creek without a paddle that one's not being discussed quite so much now.
As said previously, in essence all governments have a contain method. The other disagreement with UK policy is what happens after the first phase. There are three technological solutions out there which a guy on here got incredibly argy bargy about. Chill. It isn't my view and I don't make governments' policy. Some governments do seem to be holding out on this as an insurance policy, which was why I said it. Or just hoping for the best.
Some countries have buggered up/given up on the testing though
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