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Years ago I worked for a DIY retailer that had a 10% off for OAPs day, it wasn't at all unusual to see some fit young fella dragging a little old lady around the shop.

"Come on then nan, we've got your chainsaw, just the extension ladder and sledge hammer you wanted now wasn't it?"
Some Italian supermarkets used to (maybe still do) allow pregnant shoppers to jump the checkout queue. More than once I saw a woman presumably pregnant) with a partner using this.
Couldn't help wondering why he didn't leave her at home in peace with her feet up and just do the shopping himself.
 

glasgowcyclist

Charming but somewhat feckless
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Scotland
BJ says in his statement......" It goes without saying, we should all only use the NHS when we really need to. And please go online rather than ringing NHS 111. "

What does he mean? I hadn't heard of communicating with the NHS online as an alternative to 111.

I only learned of this the other day but you can access NHS via https://111.nhs.uk/

(Edit: Sorry, beaten by several others)
 
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I've just read that Idris Elba has tested positive for the virus even though he feels OK and has no symptoms.

I don't know if he's in the UK currently, but take it that the test was not done on the NHS. At least I hope there was no special treatment for him.
 

Slick

Guru
One practical thing my wife & I have discussed is perhaps guaranteed delivery slots from the supermarkets. She already does the weekly shop this way but it's been pretty erratic for the last couple of weeks. If the vulnerable were given priority... but who's going to organise that?
There was a suggestion that the big supermarkets have been turning over billions for years and at the same time collecting all sorts of information on its customers by way of loyalty cards. They already know who the vulnerable people are and could make a decent fist of supporting our pensioners and others as well as anyone.
 

pawl

Legendary Member
Yes, the advice needs to be a bit more specific about "the most serious health conditions".
I am 73 and reasonably fit and healthy, not on any drugs, but I have been diagnosed for the past 15 years as having mild late-onset asthma. It has never caused me any problems, I go for two hour rides 2/3 times a week, and I have never had to use the inhaler, other than one puff of the preventer every most mornings when I remember, but I assume I am classed as elderly vulnerable with an underlying condition.

It is a bit of a kick in the b*lls to realise that is how I am seen and will be treated.

With you on that last comment I had a heart valve replacement in 1973.On discharge the consultant said you can do as much physical exercise as you like once the sternum has healed .Her I am in2020 usually averaging 200 to300 miles a month.Now because i am 79 I am vulnerable and don’t understand how to make decisions about maintaining my health in the current situation.
 
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marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
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Logopolis
Unless it's linked to the NHS lists of vulnerable people? An organisational nightmare and you're right, many will try to abuse it.

Vulnerable is not an agreed upon term throughout several sectors, this is one of the problems from a logistics viewpoint. It would include those in care homes etc. Beyond a few other categories it's quite complicated.

I used to see quite a bit of a supermarket online delivery system from the inside. I would advise trying to do it on-line as you have and as a backup a neighbour or someone else topping up and leaving food outside. I think under the circumstances many would do this, I would do it for my neighbours and I don't even know them. I advise this because the systems aren't very resilient, you'll get orders but the on-line availability will plummet on certain items. The supermarkets unless they use ocado are absolutely shyte at tech for on-line btw.

Of course try and register for any scheme you can as theorised above, you may or may not find you end up on 'the list'.
 

deptfordmarmoset

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There was a suggestion that the big supermarkets have been turning over billions for years and at the same time collecting all sorts of information on its customers by way of loyalty cards. They already know who the vulnerable people are and could make a decent fist of supporting our pensioners and others as well as anyone.
Iceland are apparently opening early for OAPs to shop without having to fight with younger people for access to restocked shelves. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51906744

I'd hope that this spreads around other stores too.

EDIT: though note it's only some Iceland stores and it's local decisions.
 
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Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
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There was a suggestion that the big supermarkets have been turning over billions for years and at the same time collecting all sorts of information on its customers by way of loyalty cards. They already know who the vulnerable people are and could make a decent fist of supporting our pensioners and others as well as anyone.

The only thing known in terms of vulnerable is age. For those who signed up. They know nothing of health conditions. Not sure what you mean by turn over billions what’s that meant to mean?
 

glasgowcyclist

Charming but somewhat feckless
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Scotland
This is my issue, they're asking people to use common sense, from what I have seen in the stores there is a distinct lack of this.

When it becomes obvious that certain elements of society are failing to follow guidance the enforcement will come and government will be able to say, quite rightly, “it’s their fault we’re having to take this step”.
 
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