Coronavirus outbreak

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Johnno260

Guru
Location
East Sussex
some don't like it but if I see armed forces deployed to control "idiots" then I will be re-assured, I loved seeing them around during London 2012
 

delb0y

Legendary Member
Location
Quedgeley, Glos
So we can cycle? Skimming one of the other threads, I got the impression we couldn't / shouldn't. It's almost as if no-one quite knows what the situation is...
 

Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
Location
Inside my skull
This is my issue, they're asking people to use common sense, from what I have seen in the stores there is a distinct lack of this.

The other problem is people are panicked and think if they catch it they are doomed. True for specific subsets but for rest of us we will fall ill, spend time in bed, recover. It’s evident rational thought is missing for many.

Lets also be clear, those not in vulnerable groups, we need to fall ill. That’s the government strategy. Fall ill within a minimal circle. Don’t spread it far and wide. Recover. Do it in the 12 week period that vulnerable members are isolated. So in 12 weeks the quarantine can be removed as the rest of us are now immune. Much reduced risk to vulnerable members and the NHS can cope with the serious cases.

If this doesn’t happen the isolation of vulnerable from fit and healthy will have been for nowt. We just delay the outbreak and deaths 12 weeks.

My issue is they have suspended testing outside serious hospital cases. So we will never know how many have had it and are now immune.
 
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Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
Location
Inside my skull
So we can cycle? Skimming one of the other threads, I got the impression we couldn't / shouldn't. It's almost as if no-one quite knows what the situation is...

Yes you can go out for exercise but not in large groups aka group rides. So go out on your own or in ones and twos but no more. I may cycle with my wife tomorrow.
 

SkipdiverJohn

Deplorable Brexiteer
Location
London
The amount of snowflakery nonsense is unbelievable. Trying to prevent people catching the virus is as futile as trying to prevent people catching the common cold. If it's everywhere out there, sooner or later you will cop a dose.
It makes a lot of sense for those who are susceptible to infections to stay out of the way as much as possible, whilst everyone else, who it will not make seriously ill, just goes about their normal business earning their wages and spending their money to keep the economy ticking over.
Drastic lockdowns to try and inhibit social and business interactions will be economically disastrous, and a lot of those who will be worst hit are minimum wage staff in retail and hospitality on zero hours or low hours contracts who can simply be told not to come in as they aren't needed - without the employer having to pay them. The government simply can't afford to bankroll everybody for months to do nothing economically productive and twiddle their thumbs. To run public services you need tax money to keep coming in and you need staff to turn up for work. The majority of people, who are of working age, need to carry on going to work, and everyone who is not high risk needs to carry on with their normal routine. Shutting the entire country down for weeks or months is simply not realistic, and people will soon start to rebel against such measures if attempted for a sustained period.
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
Aye I read all that, but what does this part actually mean?

Btw don't know if this helps.

It isn't great, but it is actually more detail

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...protecting-older-people-and-vulnerable-adults
 

Rocky

Hello decadence
The amount of snowflakery nonsense is unbelievable. Trying to prevent people catching the virus is as futile as trying to prevent people catching the common cold. If it's everywhere out there, sooner or later you will cop a dose.
It makes a lot of sense for those who are susceptible to infections to stay out of the way as much as possible, whilst everyone else, who it will not make seriously ill, just goes about their normal business earning their wages and spending their money to keep the economy ticking over.
Drastic lockdowns to try and inhibit social and business interactions will be economically disastrous, and a lot of those who will be worst hit are minimum wage staff in retail and hospitality on zero hours or low hours contracts who can simply be told not to come in as they aren't needed - without the employer having to pay them. The government simply can't afford to bankroll everybody for months to do nothing economically productive and twiddle their thumbs. To run public services you need tax money to keep coming in and you need staff to turn up for work. The majority of people, who are of working age, need to carry on going to work, and everyone who is not high risk needs to carry on with their normal routine. Shutting the entire country down for weeks or months is simply not realistic, and people will soon start to rebel against such measures if attempted for a sustained period.
I always think that those accusing others of being snowflakes are the biggest snowflakes of all.........why not stop criticising and go and help an elderly neighbour or someone who is vulnerable?
 

DaveReading

Don't suffer fools gladly (must try harder!)
Location
Reading, obvs
The other problem is people are panicked and think if they catch it they are doomed. True for specific subsets but for rest of us we will fall ill, spend time in bed, recover. It’s evident rational thought is missing for many.

According to some reports, it's not quite that straightforward. Some will survive the virus, but still be left with long-term damage to lungs or other organs.
 

Mike_P

Guru
Location
Harrogate
Seems yesterdays comments from retailers fell on deaf ears, local Asda devestated in large sections including frozen, wonder how many freezers have been sold recently.
 

Poacher

Gravitationally challenged member
Location
Nottingham
Seems yesterdays comments from retailers fell on deaf ears, local Asda devestated in large sections including frozen, wonder how many freezers have been sold recently.
After seeing other comments about freezer sales, out of idle curiosity I looked on the John Lewis website. Of 80 models of freezer listed, 53 were out of stock.
 
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