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PK99

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vickster

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We already do that - or rather when people are round we leave the windows open a crack and leave curtains over draughty french doors open and almost froze to death in a pub in Cornwall last week that had its widows partly open.
and the widowers? :ph34r:
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
TV news graphic of how vaccine effectiveness reduces for Pfizer, Moderna and Janssen if vaccinated in mid-March (but some labels would have been nice, as would writing down the source which I believe is the Public Health Service of Belgium). I understand Oxford's curve would be between them:

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PK99

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TV news graphic of how vaccine effectiveness reduces for Pfizer, Moderna and Janssen if vaccinated in mid-March (but some labels would have been nice, as would writing down the source which I believe is the Public Health Service of Belgium). I understand Oxford's curve would be between them:

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What measure of effectiveness is that?

Cases among vaccinated population?

Or measured antibodies?

Or some other measure?
 

SpokeyDokey

68, & my GP says I will officially be old at 70!
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Austria pushing ahead with plans to lock down the unvaccinated. (Guardian)

Apart from certain exceptions a good move imo and one we should consider here.
 

vickster

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Austria pushing ahead with plans to lock down the unvaccinated. (Guardian)

Apart from certain exceptions a good move imo and one we should consider here.
There was a visit / go live and work in Austria ad at the cinema last night which seemed a bit hopeful given Covid and Brexit :blink:
 
There was a visit / go live and work in Austria ad at the cinema last night which seemed a bit hopeful given Covid and Brexit :blink:

Covid didn't apply then, of course, but I worked in Austria long before Austria joined the EU (which wasn't until 1995). The paperwork wasn't too onerous and I'm sure they'd be happy to do it 'in reverse' as it were, if it were to their advantage.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Netherlands PM Rutte to address the nation at 7pm local time (6pm UK) this evening. He is expected to announce lockdown from 7pm Saturday for 3 weeks, closing hospitality, non-essential shops and sporting events and setting a "rule of four" for visiting each other's homes. https://inews.co.uk/news/world/netherlands-lockdown-winter-covid-cases-record-high-europe-1297272
It wasn't quite that strict, I think, with a curfew rather than total closure of hospitality.

Belgium has reintroduced mask rules and home working orders.

Ireland has also ordered home working, making the health minister who said it wasn't being considered look silly.

And a first systematic review suggests masks are the top non-drug way to cut covid cases that it could identify, maybe halving them. More data is needed before they can say much about some other measures. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ost-effective-way-to-tackle-covid-study-finds
 

SpokeyDokey

68, & my GP says I will officially be old at 70!
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A once busy thread (albeit previously a political 'football' one) seems to have gone quiet of late.

Anyone else bothered by people diving in and out of the country? Especially in Europe where even the much lauded Germans very sadly appear to be under the cosh and various restrictions are being applied in other Euro states.

We know 3 couples who are just off to various parts of Europe on their jollies, two couples still abroad and 1 couple off to Mexico early December.

Can't say I'm supportive of all this basically unnecessary travel.
 
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