Coronavirus outbreak

[mjr]

I'm confused by what you mean by travelling workers. Do you mean people who travel on business? Or commuters? Either way, they can take whatever steps they feel necessary, if that means taking packed lunches and/or eating outside, that's entirely up to them.

What the latter group can't necessarily do is remove their reliance on public transport.

I was thinking of people who work away from home, staying in a hotel for a week or more, doing key work in health or telecommunications. Taking a week of prepack meals is not really a practical option for most, so while strictly speaking restaurant use may be voluntary, it seems rather punishing to deny them the choice in reasonably safety.

 

[kingrollo]

So the big issue really is other people not wearing a mask?

All those worried, when you see a person without a mask do you think they are automatically going to infect you from across the shop or wherever even though you will have your mask on?

Errrrm - that's how it spreads isn't it ?

 

[Edwardoka]

I was thinking of people who work away from home, staying in a hotel for a week or more, doing key work in health or telecommunications. Taking a week of prepack meals is not really a practical option for most, so while strictly speaking restaurant use may be voluntary, it seems rather punishing to deny them the choice in reasonably safety.

Oh, I see. I hadn't considered that, but in that case we're on broadly the same page, insofar as removing restrictions indoors is idiotic and unfair on those whose options for alternatives are limited.

 

[kingrollo]

I think sport could get very interesting. With relatively low rates of transmission there have been several outbreaks at Euro 2020.

This is only going to get worse through the winter - I think quite a few games will get postponed due to covid. Not the headlines Boris will want. Esp if some £60-70m superstar goes down with long covid.

Another lockdown isn't off the agenda imo. Even if it's driven by the sheer number of people getting ill.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Another lockdown isn't off the agenda imo. Even if it's driven by the sheer number of people getting ill.

I think the chances of another lockdown are zero, in the UK.

But I think the chances of disruption due to sheer case numbers is certain. It's already happened in schools, and worse still, cricket!!!

We will see how significant it gets. Prior to first and third lockdown, some schools closed due to caseload rather than diktat.

 

[Deleted User]

No but it's a usually-unnecessary extra risk exposure. Stop being so black and white about it.

I'll be as Black or White as I like thanks, that approach to life has served me well enough for the last 55 yrs and I appear to have far less reservations about this virus than a lot on here.
Working well for the rest of my views on things too.

 

[Deleted User]

Errrrm - that's how it spreads isn't it ?

It is if the person has the virus, they then expel it into the air or onto a surface, you then come along and either breathe it in through your own mask or touch that surface then your face, this obviously along with you having both jabs.

I can see why everyone is so scared!

 

[Deleted User]

Oh, I see. I hadn't considered that, but in that case we're on broadly the same page, insofar as removing restrictions indoors is idiotic and unfair on those whose options for alternatives are limited.

Do you currently need a mask when in a Restaurant?

 

[Ajax Bay]

All those worried, when you see a person without a mask do you think they are automatically going to infect you from across the shop or wherever even though you will have your mask on?

@shep Do you think that wearing a mask indoors (eg shop/bar) reduces your (the mask wearer's) chances of catching the lurgy?

 

[mjr]

@shep Do you think that wearing a mask indoors (eg shop/bar) reduces your (the mask wearer's) chances of catching the lurgy?

Calling it the lurgy? Do you mean to imply that covid is fictitious, do you not know The Goon Show (season 5 episode 7), or something else?

 

[PK99]

Please can you explain how you are choosing quiet pubs and restaurants at quiet times? There seems to be very little information on the usual booking sites, plus then there are all the places without booking services.

Does this mean you are abandoning some meals out when you find the venue is busier than expected/acceptable?

And does it mean you've eaten in some places that are unpopular because they're basically crap?

You asked so:

Pubs
Weatherspoons sub £3 a pint = busy = AVOID

Youngs pubs locally £5+ a pint = quiet
Lunchtime = quiet
Walk-in without booking part of current offer. If busy, don't walk in. eg avoid footall times
Well-spaced tables
Outside seating available

Restaurants
In the past few weeks, locally
Youngs Gasrtoish pubs locally, Lunchtimes
Patara premium Thai, Wimbledon, 7 pm table - well ventillated, widely spaced tables, no one within 3m
Syrian Kitchen - new opening hot ticket in Carnaby street (going again on Friday 1pm)

Over 6-day stay in Kent last week
Rose Hotel, Deal, up market hotel
Kings Head, Wye, normal pub in quiet village, early evening
Wife of Bath, Wye, up market hotel
Sportsman, Seaslater, Michelin * Gastro Pub

All upmarket with widely spaced tables even n the Before Times, now with rigorous covid regimes

 

[Edwardoka]

I demand to be free to swing a baseball bat at head height, even in crowded areas. I don't see why other people are avoiding us just because of this, I haven't been hit by a baseball bat, those 140,000 people who have been hit and killed must have had pre-existing conditions. And now that almost 50% of people have two baseball-bat-resistant hats on it's even less of an issue, despite the rate of baseball-bat/head collisions accelerating rapidly.

We simply have to learn to live with baseball bats being swung at heads, including those who have no option but to enter areas full of people swinging baseball bats. You can't live in fear of being hit by a baseball bat, what kind of life is that at a*SMASH*

Is my analogy a bit heavy-handed? Good.

 

[mjr]

You asked so:

Yeah, but I asked how you're picking them, rather than for a list of places far from me, plus if you had abandoned any due to how busy they are.

It seems like you're basically picking places with expensive beer, or see themselves as upmarket or premium and guessing at busy times, or places you knew from pre-covid. That's fine, but it's similar to what I've been doing, with less success than you.

Unless anyone knows a better tactic, I'm probably going to stick to places with outdoor seating after the 19th while case numbers are high, and I blame bad government entirely for that reduced choice and the resulting harm I think will hit restaurants and pubs.

 

[Deleted User]

@shep Do you think that wearing a mask indoors (eg shop/bar) reduces your (the mask wearer's) chances of catching the lurgy?

According to form no, but the main thing I can see people worrying about is no mask wearing by others?

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Is my analogy a bit heavy-handed?

I predict it will just be batted away