Coronavirus outbreak

[AuroraSaab]

I do worry that people are seeing being doubled jabbed as making you invincible to covid. There are bound to be deaths as we won't all have the same level of immune response to the jab and the virus might trigger other stuff in some people.

I would happily wear my mask in shops etc for as long as necessary. I'll certainly wear it after the regs change until I feel more confident about things.

 

[lane]

It's not the jab that makes you invincible it's the football.

 

[Milzy]

It would have been a better idea to fully open up tomorrow but make masks compulsory until New Year’s Eve.

 

[cambsno]

It would have been a better idea to fully open up tomorrow but make masks compulsory until New Year’s Eve.

Depends - going round Tesco... not too fussed apart from the selfish dicks who 'cant wear one'.

Going to pub - no, seems pointless being able to sit maskless then have to put one on to go to the loo, plus opening up means standing around at bar etc...

 

[pawl]

I do worry that people are seeing being doubled jabbed as making you invincible to covid. There are bound to be deaths as we won't all have the same level of immune response to the jab and the virus might trigger other stuff in some people.

I would happily wear my mask in shops etc for as long as necessary. I'll certainly wear it after the regs change until I feel more confident about things.

Me to.I’m 80 in good health and intend to remain so Double vaccinated I will continue to take all relevant precautions Concerns me that records show a75%increase in the variant

 

[KnittyNorah]

I do worry that people are seeing being doubled jabbed as making you invincible to covid. There are bound to be deaths as we won't all have the same level of immune response to the jab and the virus might trigger other stuff in some people.

I would happily wear my mask in shops etc for as long as necessary. I'll certainly wear it after the regs change until I feel more confident about things.

I'm entirely with you on this. I've actually sent off for some much better masks - FFP3 - in order to protect myself against the vastly-increased number of non-mask wearers I know I'm going to encounter on public transport, in shops etc. I'll continue wearing a 'normal' mask in most situations to protect those around me - but will keep an FFP3 handy for when I'm the one who feels the need for enhanced protection against others. Crowded, poor ventilation etc and can't leave.

 

[AuroraSaab]

I could well be sticking with the mask wearing in shops until after Christmas I reckon. I at least want to see how the data looks a couple of months after we've dropped all the precautions, but I also want to see if any new variants emerge. I appreciate some people struggle with the mask wearing but it's been no hardship for me so I'll carry on.

 

[lane]

I'm entirely with you on this. I've actually sent off for some much better masks - FFP3 - in order to protect myself against the vastly-increased number of non-mask wearers I know I'm going to encounter on public transport, in shops etc. I'll continue wearing a 'normal' mask in most situations to protect those around me - but will keep an FFP3 handy for when I'm the one who feels the need for enhanced protection against others. Crowded, poor ventilation etc and can't leave.

I've used a cloth mask with a 2.5 mq filter insert from the start of mask wearing protects both me and others.

Saying we will make mask wearing optional - when the whole idea of a mask was to protect the other person - is fooking stupid. It only makes sense to wear one to protect YOU after the 19th.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Saying we will make mask wearing optional - when the whole idea of a mask was to protect the other person is fooking stupid

This.

And the whole libertarian rhetoric that goes with it - time for people to take personal responsibility yadda yadda.

Your personal risk is largely dictated by *other* people's behaviour. I can't take "personal responsibility" for the overall prevalence of COVID.

Viruses are not responsive to rhetoric.

 

[Craig the cyclist]

I've actually sent off for some much better masks - FFP3

Be careful with this. FFP3 masks need to be 'fit tested' to be effective*. Just being FFP3 itself confers only a little additional benefit. They just become expensive ordinary masks. Once fit tested you need to take time and care to fit it properly, you can't just whack it on and be better protected.

Probably better to stick to some double layer ordinary masks and keep your sensible distance.

*My experience of this is that I was a large NHS Trusts Fit Testing lead from Mar-June last year!

 

[KnittyNorah]

Be careful with this. FFP3 masks need to be 'fit tested' to be effective*. Just being FFP3 itself confers only a little additional benefit. They just become expensive ordinary masks. Once fit tested you need to take time and care to fit it properly, you can't just whack it on and be better protected.

Probably better to stick to some double layer ordinary masks and keep your sensible distance.

*My experience of this is that I was a large NHS Trusts Fit Testing lead from Mar-June last year!

Yes I know this; I have worked in radiation physics most of my life and am very accustomed to using far more effective PPE (and in some very difficult environments, too) than has ever been made available to 'ordinary' medical staff. In some situations - public transport for instance - it is impossible to 'keep your sensible distance'. In those situations it is better to remove oneself from it - as I have done once or twice already - but that is not always possible.

 

[lane]

This.

And the whole libertarian rhetoric that goes with it - time for people to take personal responsibility yadda yadda.

Your personal risk is largely dictated by *other* people's behaviour. I can't take "personal responsibility" for the overall prevalence of COVID.

Viruses are not responsive to rhetoric.

Absolutely and note they don't take that approach with the vaccine but tell everyone they should get it AND make it compulsory for some if they want to keep their job.

 

[kingrollo]

I could well be sticking with the mask wearing in shops until after Christmas I reckon. I at least want to see how the data looks a couple of months after we've dropped all the precautions, but I also want to see if any new variants emerge. I appreciate some people struggle with the mask wearing but it's been no hardship for me so I'll carry on.

Can you not make an educated guess how the data will look in a couple of months ?

In about 6 weeks we have gone from 1.5k daily cases to approaching 30k daily cases.

We drop mask wearing, open everything up fully, it's a safe bet imo that cases aren't going down.

 

[Low Gear Guy]

The number of reported cases is likely to decrease rapidly due to reduced levels of testing when the schools break up. If this coincides with most restrictions being removed then hotspots are likely to pop up without warning. If this does not lead to high levels of hospitalizations it may not matter but this cannot be guaranteed.

I have never been in any doubt that this government will prioritise the economy over my health (consider policies on air pollution, climate change etc.)

 

[kingrollo]

The number of reported cases is likely to decrease rapidly due to reduced levels of testing when the schools break up. If this coincides with most restrictions being removed then hotspots are likely to pop up without warning. If this does not lead to high levels of hospitalizations it may not matter but this cannot be guaranteed.

I have never been in any doubt that this government will prioritise the economy over my health (consider policies on air pollution, climate change etc.)

Yep. Hence eat out to help out.

They absolutely will do as you say.