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This total fixation on giving dates for things has been part of the problem as if covid has a diary and you can set up an appointment.
It's not helpful and they have a habit of becoming set on then no matter how many warning they get saying don't do it.
The rules are not the problem , the lockdowns are not the problem. Covid is the problem focus on that and you don't need the rest.
it's looking more likely that even now the penny has dropped.
It's not helpful and they have a habit of becoming set on then no matter how many warning they get saying don't do it.
The rules are not the problem , the lockdowns are not the problem. Covid is the problem focus on that and you don't need the rest.
it's looking more likely that even now the penny has dropped.
kingrollo
Guru
You mean hasn't dropped.!This total fixation on giving dates for things has been part of the problem as if covid has a diary and you can set up an appointment.
It's not helpful and they have a habit of becoming set on then no matter how many warning they get saying don't do it.
The rules are not the problem , the lockdowns are not the problem. Covid is the problem focus on that and you don't need the rest.
it's looking more likely that even now the penny has dropped.
LCpl Boiled Egg
Three word soundbite
I'm struggling to see how having the over 70s vaccinated will make schools a safer place to work.
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
This time, many of the journalists asking about schools reopening have suggested giving criteria instead of a date, but Team Boris appears to have utterly failed to taken that opportunity!
"Government to set out lockdown easing plan in the week of 22 February" says the flipper below the news conference. Hopefully they will do better than the last two unlockings and not derestrict multiple things simultaneously (making it very difficult to estimate what had what effect), or even just too fast to reverse a relaxation that sets cases soaring again.
Salty seadog
Space Cadet...(3rd Class...)
JVT wins that press conference. He told it as it was with regard to schools. Plain, simple, no ducking.
He's too busy to sleep he's woking on his road map to "steadily reclaim our lives" and the time table with "adjustable element".
Ajax Bay
Guru
- Location
- East Devon
I wonder if Wednesdays are always way above the rolling average for deaths (those within 28 days of a COVID-19 test on the day of death) being reported? Were there substantially less yesterday and the day before? Is the 7-day average dropping? Pleased to see the UK-wide restrictions are making a difference at last after the cases peaked at Epiphany +1.
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
Wednesdays have tended to be the high point of deaths each week, with a few exceptions when big changes are occurring.
There were slightly less yesterday and a lot less Monday and Sunday (as is usual).
The 7-day average has just started to drop slightly (1228 deaths/day down from 1241 yesterday).
I can't understand anyone being pleased about these restrictions, made necessary by that series of Christmas fark ups. A lot of people have died this month because of it.
IaninSheffield
Veteran
- Location
- Sheffield, UK
His final response - "Can children in school mix with each other, become infected, take the infection home, infect their family and contribute to increasing R? Yes!"
That's a wicked problem to be faced with as a govt. (apparently) committed to ensuring quality and equality of eductional provision. Lose - lose?
Ajax Bay
Guru
- Location
- East Devon
Balance of risk, and yes, a wicked problem which needs action not delay: it has to be answered with the least worse solution. There will be Cassandras aplenty able to advise.
Is the education of children important? Yes. Is the education of children very important? Yes (Unlike work and other stuff, they only have so many days/terms/years in school and the nation needs them to be educated and socially reasonable.) On the 'fixing adate' issue, can you see a school head saying 'please don't give me the earliest date I'm likely to need to open'?
Can schoolchildren travel in a bus to school, in school mix with each other, become infected, take the infection home, and infect their family? Yes.
Can adults in a work place mix with each other, become infected, take the infection home, infect their family? Yes.
Can adults travelling to work on public transport mix with each other, become infected, take the infection home, infect their family Yes.
Is the education of children important? Yes. Is the education of children very important? Yes (Unlike work and other stuff, they only have so many days/terms/years in school and the nation needs them to be educated and socially reasonable.) On the 'fixing adate' issue, can you see a school head saying 'please don't give me the earliest date I'm likely to need to open'?
Can schoolchildren travel in a bus to school, in school mix with each other, become infected, take the infection home, and infect their family? Yes.
Can adults in a work place mix with each other, become infected, take the infection home, infect their family? Yes.
Can adults travelling to work on public transport mix with each other, become infected, take the infection home, infect their family Yes.
kingrollo
Guru
You should be counsellor to the bereaved
Do you not have one once empathy for the bereaved - rather than trying to put a slant on making Boris look good ?
Has it never occurred to you people tonight have lost father's, sons, brother, sisters ..
It beggars belief it seriously does.
Salty seadog
Space Cadet...(3rd Class...)
Is a toughie.
Maybe we can start to open schools if the government would as with much of this mess. Look at his other parts of the world have managed it. Without the plucking the next magic solution. Smaller bubbles , take over empty wide open spacers not able to open you don’t need a school for learning, more breaks outdoors and often , ventilate the place, mask up at all times. Set days in and set out of school for given year groups. Forget targets and just let kids learn what they can when they can. It’s mental well-being that matters right now and the welfare and safety of the ones at the bottom. Not learning a joyless curriculum all to pass a test. As with all things right now you can’t expect and believe once you open again it all normal.
