Coronavirus outbreak

[nickyboy]

Sure, I agree it may be images on TV rather than reality which have moved gov.uk to act now.

I don't think it's only due to other variants popping up because that's been known for many weeks now.


As well as the obvious politicians, you could find them on most forums:

That was once, you said "all year". Keep going

 

[mjr]

That was once, you said "all year". Keep going

The search is accessed by using the searchglass icon near the top right.

 

[tom73]

True leadership sounds like this

View: https://twitter.com/devisridhar/status/1353320706268921858?s=21

 

[kingrollo]

Interesting that Quarantine Hotels are now on the agenda. There isn't much point of them whilst UK has higher local transmission rates than countries people are arriving from. Suspect the science driving this (assuming it's not a politically based policy) is;

New variants popping up in the future elsewhere

UK finally getting on top of its cases via the accelerated vaccination program and running through the summer with lower transmission levels than countries people will travel from

Do you need a quarantine hotel when going to and from Kent ?

 

[Cirrus]

In 2020 in England and Wales, ONS record 84,449 deaths (date of death in 2020, with COVID-19 on the death certificate).
Of those 45% were female and 55% were male.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales
Edit: deleted
"The 2019 headcount of male teachers in all state-funded schools was 121,356 which was 24.2% of all teachers."
"Among teachers, there were 18 deaths per 100,000 among men and 10 per 100,000 among women." No doubt true, but that's not the same as " [in] teachers . . . two thirds of the deaths are men" (because less than 1/4 of teachers are male).
Lies, damn lies and statistics.
Perhaps this would support the argument that male teachers should be vaccinated ahead of female teachers (of the same age and excluding other vulnerabilities). I can't see that going down well with a variety of stakeholders whatever its statistical merit.

When I read the article I got the impression that the "two thirds of death were among men" were of all deaths not just teachers:

"The ONS looked at death rates from coronavirus in England and Wales between 9 March and 28 December 2020.
It found 31 in every 100,000 working-age men and 17 in every 100,000 working-age women had died of Covid-19.
This equated to just under 8,000 deaths among 20-64-year-olds.
But care workers, security guards and people working in certain manufacturing roles died at more than three times the rate of their peers.
Two-thirds of deaths were among men."

 

[Ajax Bay]

@Cirrus - my comments were drawn from the ONS stats, not the BBC report. I'm sure the BBC quote (above) is 'right'.
Maybe the deaths in those of working age is men 67%. Perhaps male work patterns or jobs put them more in harm's way. I don't know.
The 55%/45% male/female figure was for all ages England and Wales with COVID-19 mentioned on the death certificate in 2020.

 

[Cirrus]

@Cirrus - my comments were drawn from the ONS stats, not the BBC report. I'm sure the BBC quote (above) is 'right'.
Maybe the deaths in those of working age is men 67%. Perhaps male work patterns or jobs put them more in harm's way. I don't know.
The 55%/45% male/female figure was for all ages England and Wales with COVID-19 mentioned on the death certificate in 2020.

Indeed, I believe the BBC article is just about working age folk. That said, 8,000 out of just under 100,000 (at the time of publication) are working age, it wasn't until I considered that a bit more closely did I realise just how many of the older generation are bearing the brunt of the epedemic, I obviously knew they were the ones effected the most but the numbers are pretty stark.

 

[tom73]

Here it is folks we've top 100,000 deaths 100,162 this is the cost of failure , this is the cost of putting money before people.
The true cost however is with all the families are friends that lie behind each one of them. My thoughts go to each and everyone of them.

 

[kingrollo]

Here it is folks we've top 100,000 deaths 100,162 this is the cost of failure capitalism , this is the cost of putting money before people.
The true cost however is with all the families are friends that lie behind each one of them. My thoughts go to each and everyone of them.

Just a slight tweak for you

 

[tom73]

Watching Boris I'm lost for words the man has no ounce of self respect some how trying to turn this disaster into some sort of British science overcoming it all. As for having to bare faced cheek to say we remember the heroic effects of health workers lost. Good job I was watching on my MacBook (i'm not damaging it for this worthless sh**) or the TV would be dust.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Watching Boris I'm lost for words the man has no ounce of self respect some how trying to turn this disaster into some sort of British science overcoming it all. As for having to bare faced cheek to say we remember the heroic effects of health workers lost. Good job I was watching on my MacBook (i'm not damaging it for this worthless sh**) or the TV would be dust.

I simply can't watch Johnson any more on COVID. His entire false bonhomie act is so repellent to the subject matter, and his casual lies, inappropriate nationalism and basic ignorance offend me beyond words.

 

[Mo1959]

Watching Boris I'm lost for words the man has no ounce of self respect some how trying to turn this disaster into some sort of British science overcoming it all. As for having to bare faced cheek to say we remember the heroic effects of health workers lost. Good job I was watching on my MacBook (i'm not damaging it for this worthless sh**) or the TV would be dust.

More waffle. He’s never going to admit they were far too slow in acting in the beginning or using track and trace properly.

 

[kingrollo]

I simply can't watch Johnson any more on COVID. His entire false bonhomie act is so repellent to the subject matter, and his casual lies, inappropriate nationalism and basic ignorance offend me beyond words.

Unfortunately a considerable amount of people lap it up.

Just wait until someone crossing the channel in a dinghy tests positive for covid.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

More waffle. He’s never going to admit they were far too slow in acting in the beginning or using track and trace properly.

When he said that he took responsibility for everything the government had done, I immediately asked myself, but does he take responsibility for everything his government hadn't done.

(As if Johnson would ever take responsibility for anything that turned out badly.)

 

[tom73]

Unfortunately a considerable amount of people lap it up.

Just wait until someone crossing the channel in a dinghy tests positive for covid.

They have to quarantine unlike big £££ men who have been given your free of covid it's only the plebs who need to do it card.