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marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
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Logopolis
This is doing my nut. How can he possibly justify this?

It makes more sense than it did. Wiltshire and Rutland are now the only nearby/actual bordering tier 4/tier 2 areas. The anomalous Rutland seems to be as numbers are falling for two weeks there (although it cycles in rutland).

There are some tier 2 areas bordering tier 3 that should be in 3 though.

The government seem very reluctant to touch all/large areas of cumbria, devon, worcestershire and north yorkshire and remaining enclaves of historic lancashire/cheshire.

Eden's the real outlier though. I think keeping that in tier 2 as Cox wants is a very stupid idea.
 

roubaixtuesday

self serving virtue signaller
It makes more sense than it did. Wiltshire and Rutland are now the only nearby/actual bordering tier 4/tier 2 areas. The anomalous Rutland seems to be as numbers are falling for two weeks there (although it cycles in rutland).

There are some tier 2 areas bordering tier 3 that should be in 3 though.

The government seem very reluctant to touch all/large areas of cumbria, devon, worcestershire and north yorkshire and remaining enclaves of historic lancashire/cheshire.

Eden's the real outlier though. I think keeping that in tier 2 as Cox wants is a very stupid idea.

How does having any area in tier 3 make sense when Hancock says the govt knows itv will enable the virus to spread?
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
How does having any area in tier 3 make sense when Hancock says the govt knows itv will enable the virus to spread?

Tier 3 does seem to be holding EU1 steady in many areas. That won't last as B117 takes over.

Tier 2 is fairly useless though, unless we get a time machine and go back to september or most rural areas of all with a bit of luck (which you're not going to have over Christmas).

7 million out of 66 million in tier 2. That's down from something like 17 million in tiers 1 and 2. For me that's a big improvement and especially on the bordering tier 4 areas which was just plain silly. They'll pick off bits of North Yorkshire/Devon/Cumbria on the next round, it's just keeping the CRG group of Tory MPs in their playpen.

I'd put everywhere in tier 3 or 4 on Boxing Day. The figures presented today are a bit more optimistic in the sense that they think B117 is approximately in the areas of tier 4 (although I'm a little puzzled about southern bits of Lincolnshire not being included).

I think politically they are trying to get through till early Jan with feelgood factor from the oxford vaccine and crossing their fingers some tiny data by mid January can suggest the vaccine may be having a tiny effect and extrapolate from that that Easter life will be back to normal because Boris says so.

It's all political, you know that rou.

My map would look something like:-
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Bazzer

Setting the controls for the heart of the sun.
Moved now from T2 to T3, but it doesn't surprise me. Where I live is a local hotspot, but the secondary school 2 1/2 miles away seems to have had numerous outbreaks and anecdotally outbreaks far higher than schools even just 4 miles away. I'd be interested to know if the school is driving the infections in the community, or is merely displaying the consequence of others' disregard of the guidance/rules.
 

BoldonLad

Not part of the Elite
Location
South Tyneside
Tier 3 does seem to be holding EU1 steady in many areas. That won't last as B117 takes over.
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I assume EU1 and B117 are variants / mutations of the virus?

We are being told there are approximately 30,000+ NEW infections per day.

How does anyone know what the mix of strains is in what is approximately 250,000 infections per week?

I find it had to believe that every infection is being sampled, and tested?

I even find it hard to believe accuracy of the 30,000+ NEW infections per day, what about those who a re infected with no symptoms, what about those who are infected but have mild symptoms and do not seek (or get) medical assistance?

In short, although, at 73, I am "being sensible" with respect to following the guidance, I am very sceptical about the accuracy of what we are and are not being told, not to mention the media and internet clutter.
 

vickster

Legendary Member
I assume EU1 and B117 are variants / mutations of the virus?

We are being told there are approximately 30,000+ NEW infections per day.

How does anyone know what the mix of strains is in what is approximately 250,000 infections per week?

I find it had to believe that every infection is being sampled, and tested?

I even find it hard to believe accuracy of the 30,000+ NEW infections per day, what about those who a re infected with no symptoms, what about those who are infected but have mild symptoms and do not seek (or get) medical assistance?

In short, although, at 73, I am "being sensible" with respect to following the guidance, I am very sceptical about the accuracy of what we are and are not being told, not to mention the media and internet clutter.
150000 samples sequenced thus far in U.K. vs 4000 in France :ohmy:
Covid: New variant found ‘due to hard work of UK scientists’ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55413666
 

pawl

Legendary Member
It makes more sense than it did. Wiltshire and Rutland are now the only nearby/actual bordering tier 4/tier 2 areas. The anomalous Rutland seems to be as numbers are falling for two weeks there (although it cycles in rutland).

There are some tier 2 areas bordering tier 3 that should be in 3 though.

The government seem very reluctant to touch all/large areas of cumbria, devon, worcestershire and north yorkshire and remaining enclaves of historic lancashire/cheshire.

Eden's the real outlier though. I think keeping that in tier 2 as Cox wants is a very stupid idea.


See your point I am surprised that Leicestershire hasn’t gone into tier 4 A person I know lives on the border of Northamptonshire and regularly crosses into tier three to visit a pub Northamptonshire now in tier three When we have various tiers there will always be individuals breaking the rules to the detriment of othe
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
150000 samples sequenced thus far in U.K. vs 4000 in France :ohmy:
Covid: New variant found ‘due to hard work of UK scientists’ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55413666
As a little side note to that article. The countries with good genomic processing have found variants: there's Kent covid, there's Cape covid and the Danes came up with fur coat covid. Each announcement has been met with travel bans for the countries doing the announcing. There seems to be an active ''benefit'' in not looking for variants, and in keeping quiet if they're found.
 

vickster

Legendary Member
It would be tragically ironic if Kent Covid had come across the channel :blink:
 

Bollo

Failed Tech Bro
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Winch
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