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marinyork

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More covid analysis of the new strain, although not much new news in there @midlife

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/dec/22/covid-infections-eden-cumbria-new-strain

Although local director of public health a bit of an oddity. You don't have to move the whole of cumbria up a tier, you could er do Eden, perhaps?

Despite his concerns, Cox did not think Cumbria should be moved into a higher tier before Christmas.

“Our rates are very mixed at the moment. And Copeland has, if not the lowest then still one of the lowest rates in the country,” he said.

“Most places in Cumbria are comfortable in tier 2. And I guess the real question would be, what value there would be in putting it into tier 3 right now and then then you get the Christmas Day relaxation, and then it feels as if we would be not that far away from another national intervention. just swapping all the rules around so quickly, would make less sense, I think.
 
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midlife

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Some of the venues in remaining areas in tier 2 such as Norfolk, Devon, Cumbria, Cheshire, Sussex, Surrey and North Yorkshire need closing tomorrow.

Patchy in Cumbria at the moment - in South Lakeland last 7 days positive tests 207, deaths 6 and patients admitted to hospital 34 - positive cases trending up by 39 on last week over the same period. Currently T2.

Eden appears to have been hit harder.
 

midlife

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Patchy in Cumbria at the moment - in South Lakeland last 7 days positive tests 207, deaths 6 and patients admitted to hospital 34 - positive cases trending up by 39 on last week over the same period. Currently T2.

Eden appears to have been hit harder.

Cumbria is a very disparate large county with a huge variation in population density, wealth distribution and health inequality.....and more :sad:

It really should be broken up into 4 areas, when I arrived here my first employer was Eden Valley PCT..... The very same Eden that is having a surge now. More people with more money doing more things out of the household....
 

tom73

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Get‘s worse by the day for the Mrs 73 , 4 covid deaths , 13 new cases, complex clinically vulnerable unit complex mental health unit both are running at almost 100 % covid. Lord help them if the new strain gets in and it will be like a care home on steroids. :sad:
 
Cumbria is a very disparate large county with a huge variation in population density, wealth distribution and health inequality.....and more :sad:

It really should be broken up into 4 areas, when I arrived here my first employer was Eden Valley PCT..... The very same Eden that is having a surge now. More people with more money doing more things out of the household....
They’re working on it, but that’s for another thread
https://www.southlakeland.gov.uk/your-council/council-business/the-bay-unitary-proposal/
 

mjr

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Has there been new work on transmission settings? It feels a bit like we are using an imperfect "lockdown" hammer to tighten the screws. Probably some things need adding while others could be removed.
 

marinyork

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Patchy in Cumbria at the moment - in South Lakeland last 7 days positive tests 207, deaths 6 and patients admitted to hospital 34 - positive cases trending up by 39 on last week over the same period. Currently T2.

Eden appears to have been hit harder.

Unfortunately South Lakeland is higher than many of those of the forum in tier 3. Eden though is quite a lot higher and rising fast, the next review is 30th December. That's looking pretty bad for Eden. It's the same in a large number of tier 2 areas around the country, although some are doing better and some all right.
 

SpokeyDokey

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Unfortunately South Lakeland is higher than many of those of the forum in tier 3. Eden though is quite a lot higher and rising fast, the next review is 30th December. That's looking pretty bad for Eden. It's the same in a large number of tier 2 areas around the country, although some are doing better and some all right.

Most of the cases in South Lakeland are over in Barrow-in-Furness which is a PITA if we have to go into T3 here on the eastern side of SL.

Better safe than sorry though.
 

marinyork

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Most of the cases in South Lakeland are over in Barrow-in-Furness which is a PITA if we have to go into T3 here on the eastern side of SL.

Better safe than sorry though.

Cases in a lot of areas around here are much lower, its some parts of the rest of the county and the east of this city. Tier 3 is holding things and I can't see us being lower than tier 3 till March or April now with what's going on with the new strain.

A lot of rumours going around the oxford vaccine and that getting emergency licensing and that it does reduce transmission. Good as we need good news, but new strain/spread is so high now that it's looking a very long time around here even with vaccines starting to have an effect in feb/march.
 

tom73

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Many of use have long known the long road to come as winter gets going. As @marinyork says the new strain and case numbers now growing at the rate they are. That long road is now longer and anything less than tier 3 as the norm sadly won’t cut it. Tier 4 is likely to be hanging round in some areas for good while yet.

This is as course if action is taken when they are told and that the clowns don’t start playing even more of a party in the big top when they get back to “work“. We just have to hope the NHS and it’s now long tried staff keep things going.

Until then Stay safe everyone , scrub up, mask up, distance, avoid crowds indoors, reduce your bubble, stay home when you can and be kind to each other. Look after yourselves remember it’s ok not be ok and to say so. Find time just for you what ever it is how ever long or short we all need a reboot at times.
 

marinyork

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Horby et al. have just been on the select committee. He pointed out SPI-M and NERVTAG confidence has changed twice in quick succession and he is now almost certain B117 spreads quicker.
 

Rezillo

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Horby et al. have just been on the select committee. He pointed out SPI-M and NERVTAG confidence has changed twice in quick succession and he is now almost certain B117 spreads quicker.

As you indicated a little while back, East Anglia is taking off. My own district of Mid Suffolk (mainly rural, largest town Stowmarket) almost trebled its cases per 100,000 in one week. Unlike in earlier months, I'm not aware of any meat packer plant outbreaks to account for this.

https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/health/suffolk-coronavirus-infection-rates-latest-6863378

And then there's this:

https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/health/ipswich-hospital-coronavirus-crisis-revealed-6864228
 
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