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midlife

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Unusual for Cumbria to be mentioned by name by the bbc as we plod along somewhere at the top of the country next to Scotland

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-55427802

Our hospital is usually pretty coy about how many Covid patients we have but last info email said 70 ish which probably puts us in April territory. When the first wave ended we normally had less than 20

Not sure why we are not going into tier 3 at least ?
 

deptfordmarmoset

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I got subscribe or £1 for a month.

Too tight to pay.
That's odd. 2 options on the phone, 3 on the laptop.
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marinyork

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How it should've been dealt with if Gov had listened.

Devi Sridhar appears on uk tv on a regular basis and appears in papers (usually The Guardian on a regular basis).

Devi's right that most of the deaths could have been prevented (I'm not sure I'd go as high as 90% unless you have an element of luck like new zealand had among excellent planning), but the issue the UK faces at the moment is that about a third of England is rampantly infected with the B117 strain. Without better planning now and explaining to people I worry that it'll add 2/3/4 months of tier 3/4 restrictions on when things finally come in. The daily dashboard figures are catastrophic for about a third of the country. Rural areas that would have emerged relatively unscathed are going to get pummeled the next 3 weeks.

The strain picked up in south africa there's less info on, but what I have seen of that a lot more caution should be shown, crazy spikes bang in the middle of summer as bad as the first peak. Yeah, some of it might be down to well written about behaviours, but it can't all be that.
 

marinyork

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1500 lorry drivers tested 35 positives.Seems to me Macron used the situation as a punishment to Britain If that’s the case the only people he was punishing are EU lorry drivers who are EU citizens

Macron's also punishing the french people, because the B117 strain may be picked up too late in France to stop it getting wildly out of control, leading to thousands of extra deaths over months. Focussing on travel can always be improved but is a distraction. The deliberate level of denialism in France is shocking.

He needs to align his macho gob with his actions, if it's important to him then he can vaccinate all French haulliers and ask other countries to do their nationals. Rush huge numbers of samples to genomic labs to work out where it is.
 

Unkraut

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Germany
One case of the new extra infectious strain has been picked up in Baden-Württemberg, a women who recently flew in from the UK. She has been quarantined and hopefully will not be cause of it spreading, although few seen to doubt eventually it is like to spread across more of Europe.
 

marinyork

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plot showing how mad the current tier 2 to 4 system is, I say current, that one is actually old data and even that runs to a few days ago of course. The government put the latest data upto 21st december up in the last hour and there are small surges in North Yorkshire, Devon, Cumbria and other tier 2 areas. There are only five or six relatively small areas (not on a county basis) that should be in tier 2.

One of the five indicators, the percentages of those over 60s is also not so great in many areas.
 

MrGrumpy

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Fly Fifer
No wonder our FM wanted to restrict moment across the border ! Still don’t understand the current levels south of the border ?? Surely tier 4 for everywhere would best to stem the infections?
 
Macron's also punishing the french people, because the B117 strain may be picked up too late in France to stop it getting wildly out of control, leading to thousands of extra deaths over months. Focussing on travel can always be improved but is a distraction. The deliberate level of denialism in France is shocking.

He needs to align his macho gob with his actions, if it's important to him then he can vaccinate all French haulliers and ask other countries to do their nationals. Rush huge numbers of samples to genomic labs to work out where it is.

If Macron was British he'd be getting slaughtered regularly on CC, but he's their problem to deal with not ours.
 

marinyork

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If Macron was British he'd be getting slaughtered regularly on CC, but he's their problem to deal with not ours.

Say B117 hadn't got wildly out of hand in the UK, say it was at much lower levels or just more or less confined to Kent. We don't need it belting around France while politicians play a game of singing lalala in their ears as it'll come back here. Substitute any two countries in Europe with france and the UK. Some of France's neighbours aren't going to do too well out of that.

Project storm chaser, if that's successful in the coming months might just about undo the worst effects of B117, in the super rich developed world anyway.
 

marinyork

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No wonder our FM wanted to restrict moment across the border ! Still don’t understand the current levels south of the border ?? Surely tier 4 for everywhere would best to stem the infections?

The levels that the virus is in Scotland, Scottish tier 4 looks to be able to hold the virus. The proviso of that being that B117 doesn't escape enclaves in Glasgow and a few other places that the FM and medical advisors think it is.
 
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