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Come on, there's no need to be obtuse. What do you think it has to do with it? Tory MPs going on talk shows, appearing on tv going on about how cases are really 'low' in their area and they don't agree with the tiered system would really like to stay in tier 1/2 if there's a tiered system at all.
🙄 As you say, it’s your opinion....
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis

You are a person, not a politician. Generally also the labour voting areas who have had politicians who are a lot keener on restrictions and sooner, providing cash follows restrictions.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
Come on, there's no need to be obtuse. What do you think it has to do with it? Tory MPs going on talk shows, appearing on tv going on about how cases are really 'low' in their area and they don't agree with the tiered system would really like to stay in tier 1/2 if there's a tiered system at all.
Calder Valley MP, Conservative, said earlier this year that relaxing the rules and placing The Valley in a lower tier, was the wrong thing to do.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
As an example a friend has a son working in London. Son planning to come home later this week for Xmas. Tier 4 announced so he got on the next train north last night. Everyone masked up on the train but he will get a test before Xmas day when relatives come for lunch. Not sure what more he could do other than staying in London on his own over Xmas. If I were him I would have done exactly the same

Daft question, but can your friend's son just roll up for a test round here without symptoms - not aware we have that 'facility'.
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
Calder Valley MP, Conservative, said earlier this year that relaxing the rules and placing The Valley in a lower tier, was the wrong thing to do.

I've seen two tory MPs that said that, I've seen another two that have effectively said that but dressed up to address both sides. I've seen 30 or 40 other MPs in areas marked not agreeing with the tier system.

It's good that MPs already under it see sense, but the reality is on the five measures to assess tiering there is/was a gigantic reluctance to move tory tier 2 areas to tier 3. Boris does move eventually, but there's an incredible reluctance.

Some of the areas with the MPs may escape tier 3 for a good while out of luck, geography and demographics and access to the ear of Boris, but many others won't.

For many of us in tier 3 that have been a good while, even though we may be in tier 3/4 /till Feb/March/April it does matter what tier other areas far away are in.
 

stowie

Legendary Member
Daft question, but can your friend's son just roll up for a test round here without symptoms - not aware we have that 'facility'.

In London, myself and my daughter had a test yesterday without any symptoms. Not sure if this is a scheme being implemented across the UK, or just hotspot areas. We were prompted to get tested after my daughter was told to self-isolate due to a number of her classmates testing positive. The local schools and council implemented school testing last week and the results have been very worrying.

Long queue of people (waited over an hour for the test) - many with school children, so a lot of us seem to be in the same situation.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
A lot of the areas that have been promised mass testing, it hasn't arrived yet. It could be a yes, it could be a no!

I'm not aware of any roll up testing for non-symptomatic folk here in Manchester - nic's only down the road from us. Maybe there is ?
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
I'm not aware of any roll up testing for non-symptomatic folk here in Manchester - nic's only down the road from us. Maybe there is ?

All I know is this rather vague article https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55287391

Around here I know Kirklees does actually have mass testing finally, rotherham and barnsley are supposed to have it but I'm not sure. Here no, although bizarrely I could have got a uni test.
 

roubaixtuesday

self serving virtue signaller
A little detail starts to emerge. NERVTAG (science committee minutes) have been published.

Estimated increase in R from new variant 0.39-0.93. By comparison, closing all schools is estimated to reduce R by 0.4. I'm still sceptical it's really that bad, R estimates for this are very difficult, but that's really just personal speculation.

Terrible case numbers today too, 35,000

It's doubling every 6 days under tier 3. That's ~100x increase by end Jan. I think we're now into "full national lock down until vulnerable are vaccinated" territory, unless those estimates are significantly out.

Doubtless that won't be announced until Johnson has repeatedly promised not to, insulted anyone who suggests it and then waited until the absolute last moment.


View: https://mobile.twitter.com/Smyth_Chris/status/1340667844741230594
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
I'm not aware of any roll up testing for non-symptomatic folk here in Manchester - nic's only down the road from us. Maybe there is ?

Just ask Loughborough University if they have any spare student ones they've just handed some over to a Cathedral Choir to use so they can all have a sing song. So the taxpayer has paid for a round of church tests nice to see the church being so selfless.
 

nickyboy

Norven Mankey
Daft question, but can your friend's son just roll up for a test round here without symptoms - not aware we have that 'facility'.
Son #2 did exactly that a couple of months ago when he was back from university. Booked a slot online and just turned up. It was very quiet at that time so he wasn't taking a slot from anyone who needed it. He isolated at our home for 36 hours then got the all clear.
You're not supposed to do this unless you've got symptoms but if there is excess testing capacity I regard this as a positive use of the facility. The alternative is that you return home, mingle and hope for the best
 
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