Coronavirus outbreak

[marinyork]

Surely their whole house and garden is one "place" in the regulations, because that's why we were allowed unrestrictedly into our gardens during lockdown?

They are allowed unrestrictedly into their gardens. It's just whether they are allowed anyone else from outside who isn't a bubble/childcare bubble/christmas bubble/fisherprice bubble. Figures out today they may be in this situation for a bit longer.

One of my friends said yesterday having more or less kept to rules since March it's getting torn up at Christmas.

 

[DCLane]

All my partners family live on the invisible border,although I'd change the door for tunnel 😁

My father-in-law's from Cavan but lives in the north, so he flies a tricolour at his house.

Knowing which back roads the border posts weren't on when they existed mean doors and tunnels weren't needed . I'm hoping they don't return.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

The entrance is in Tier 3 so a fuss over nothing.

A friend's house has half in Northern Ireland and half in the Republic: it depends which door you go in / come out of.

It's a great story, but it's not difficult. They live in their house and not their garden. They are travelling to their garden from a tier 3 to a tier 2 area so the rules carry with them. They aren't allowed to meet people and guardian knows that perfectly well.

If the areas were divided into smaller and smaller areas they'd be way more of the villages cut in half stories.

Taken by the political geography, their house is in tier 2, their garden in tier 3, so it's the other way round. Though if @mjr is correct, the house and garden will both be treated as within tier 3.

 

[mjr]

They are allowed unrestrictedly into their gardens. It's just whether they are allowed anyone else from outside who isn't a bubble/childcare bubble/christmas bubble/fisherprice bubble. Figures out today they may be in this situation for a bit longer.

Christmas bauble, please!

And no, Tier 3 applies to the whole property. ("For the purposes of this Part of this Schedule, a gathering takes place in the Tier 3 area if any part of the place where it takes place is in the Tier 3 area." - https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/1374/schedule/3/paragraph/1/made )

Sorry to hear about the figures. I don't usually look until the evening. Newspapers here have been talking up Norfolk moving to Tier 1 but I just don't see that happening this year, and I'm not sure if Suffolk alone will get relaxed because there will be questions about whether that's mainly because of a certain MP of theirs and they've so many border towns (Lowestoft, Beccles, Bungay, Eye, Brandon, Mildenhall, Newmarket, Haverhill, Sudbury, Felixstowe and even Ipswich is only 9 miles from the boundary) that it might become a shoot show of rule-breaking and probably infections if they're surrounded by Tier 2 areas.

One of my friends said yesterday having more or less kept to rules since March it's getting torn up at Christmas.

Yeah. I think some people have changed their minds following yesterday's announcement that fat cats are exempt from travel restrictions from tomorrow.

 

[Adam4868]

My father-in-law's from Cavan but lives in the north, so he flies a tricolour at his house.

Knowing which back roads the border posts weren't on when they existed mean doors and tunnels weren't needed . I'm hoping they don't return.

Been round there quite a few times,,I'll miss not going this Xmas.The Ring of Gullion/Sleive Gullion,the Mournes are some of my favourite places to cycle/walk.There from Newry and the surrounding areas...bandit country !
Sorry for the thread deflection ,😁

 

[marinyork]

Sorry to hear about the figures. I don't usually look until the evening. Newspapers here have been talking up Norfolk moving to Tier 1 but I just don't see that happening this year, and I'm not sure if Suffolk alone will get relaxed because there will be questions about whether that's mainly because of a certain MP of theirs and they've so many border towns (Lowestoft, Beccles, Bungay, Eye, Brandon, Mildenhall, Newmarket, Haverhill, Sudbury, Felixstowe and even Ipswich is only 9 miles from the boundary) that it might become a shoot show of rule-breaking and probably infections if they're surrounded by Tier 2 areas.

Yeah. I think some people have changed their minds following yesterday's announcement that fat cats are exempt from travel restrictions from tomorrow.

I can't see many areas moving into tier 2 in the middle of December. For politics/Boris morale/conservative party politics I wouldn't rule out some areas doing so, a token gesture.

I've mostly given up watching the news, but I do get a bit of things like The Jeremy Vine show and fed up of endless complaints about Kent. Mind you endless nonsense written about both Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire here. So it's much better that this time we're all in the same tier.

 

[pawl]

They are allowed unrestrictedly into their gardens. It's just whether they are allowed anyone else from outside who isn't a bubble/childcare bubble/christmas bubble/fisherprice bubble. Figures out today they may be in this situation for a bit longer.

One of my friends said yesterday having more or less kept to rules since March it's getting torn up at Christmas.

Exactly as me and Mrs P have done As for the Christmas bubble it will remain at six

 

[DCLane]

Been round there quite a few times,,I'll miss not going this Xmas.The Ring of Gullion/Sleive Gullion,the Mournes are some of my favourite places to cycle/walk.There from Newry and the surrounding areas...bandit country !
Sorry for the thread deflection ,😁

If you've done the Mournes down into Rostrevor you'll have been past their house. Nice area and a lot 'quieter' than when I first started visiting in 1990

 

[Adam4868]

If you've done the Mournes down into Rostrevor you'll have been past their house. Nice area and a lot 'quieter' than when I first started visiting in 1990

Know it well,sister in law lives in Burren/Warren point.

 

[classic33]

And if your house is in Harrogate but your garden is in Leeds....https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...uples-house-in-different-covid-tier-to-garden

A bit like Todmorden Town Hall and a few houses along with it, prior to April Fools Day in 74.

 

[classic33]

Christmas bauble, please!

And no, Tier 3 applies to the whole property. ("For the purposes of this Part of this Schedule, a gathering takes place in the Tier 3 area if any part of the place where it takes place is in the Tier 3 area." - https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/1374/schedule/3/paragraph/1/made )

Sorry to hear about the figures. I don't usually look until the evening. Newspapers here have been talking up Norfolk moving to Tier 1 but I just don't see that happening this year, and I'm not sure if Suffolk alone will get relaxed because there will be questions about whether that's mainly because of a certain MP of theirs and they've so many border towns (Lowestoft, Beccles, Bungay, Eye, Brandon, Mildenhall, Newmarket, Haverhill, Sudbury, Felixstowe and even Ipswich is only 9 miles from the boundary) that it might become a shoot show of rule-breaking and probably infections if they're surrounded by Tier 2 areas.


Yeah. I think some people have changed their minds following yesterday's announcement that fat cats are exempt from travel restrictions from tomorrow.

The house is treated as being in a seperate area. There's a few houses locally that are in two boroughs, property wise. Owners were in the same position when there were different restrictions in place in either borough.

The county boundary has caused problems in Otley all ready. But both councils respect it.

 

[gavgav]

Putting 2000 people together at all seems very high risk compared to what else is allowed. Its massively higher risk than Parkrun, just for instance.

Making it literally the only place in the country (save for Cornwall, Wight and Scilly) you can buy booze without a meal seems positively perverse.

How on earth can this be justified when pubs can't open? It's totally out of kilter.

How is it more risky, if Covid protocols are in place? I attended my first football game, for 9 months on Friday and felt far safer than on my weekly trip to the supermarket.

 

[Dave7]

A young family friend (mid 50s) got Covid some months ago. Been in hospital ever since and sadly just died.
This virus is a real b*stard. Its totally wrecked my year but at least I am still here.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Cases up today, and flat over the last week.

Pictures of crowded shopping centres everywhere.

Christmas relaxing of rules coming - and looking increasingly like an awful mistake.

I hope it's just a blip, but for my money no chance of anywhere dropping tiers (unless for political expediency), and high likelihood of significant rise of cases and deaths into the new year.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

 

[DCLane]

Some people are simply being stupid - crowding in shops and events. They clearly haven't learnt from the first and second shut-downs. Utter morons.