Corona Virus: How Are We Doing?

[lazybloke]

They must be able to go outside?
if they do the learning on their own, she still gets the time off work

I drafted quite a long response to this before seeing the wink

 

[tom73]

Nurses, doctors and careworkers died in the first wave administering help to those with the disease and (certainly in the case of careworkers) getting pathetic levels of support in terms of PPE. We saw pictures of nurses sitting in corridors utterly dazed after working multiple shifts. People on the front line lived away from their families in order to minimise risk of spreading the disease.

I think the least I can do is to wear a mask when I am told to, wash my hands, try to socially distance and keep to the rule of six by not throwing parties . I mean it doesn't seem much of a sacrifice in comparison.

Over 600 of them, (official numbers never got fully counted) many left are now running part empty and now set to do it all over again. You kind of get use it after a while seeing them totally worn out at times it’s part of the job. But this has been something else never seen Mrs 73 this worn out. PPE is still issue only last week Mrs 73 had to carry out a risky intervention without the right level.
Your right going the basics is not much of an ask seeing people not giving a stuff. Was sort of personal but it’s gone past that now. I just now think one day no one will here to help you.

 

[The Crofted Crest]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UrkFY0zTLg

 

[srw]

The number of infections, those tested positive, doesn't tell you very much, what counts is how many become seriously ill, and the death rate of those with other conditions. I don't think anyone has actually died of covid-19 itself.

The people who write death certificates would disagree with your last assertion. What really counts in death terms is the total number who die of any cause over and above the (pretty predictable) number who would die anyway. So far in the UK that's about 60,000 people.

And the Evening Standard today reported on an estimate that another 60,000 people in the UK have got "long Covid" - that really nasty combination of fatigue, respiratory problems, heart disease and circulatory problems that is very unpredictable and extremely time-consuming to get over. Most of them will be working-age and were absolutely fine before they got sick.

The second wave that's now upon us could well mean that we end up with well over 100,000 people of working age in the UK with long Covid. Which would make it a problem on a par with cancer.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

I don't think anyone has actually died of covid-19 itself

Seriously???

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Youngest home from school yet again tomorrow after more positive tests at his school. Close contacts of positive will have to isolate 14 days, the rest return after a day.

Happening every couple of weeks.

Middle son, deferred from uni after a level fiasco, rejected today from covid drug trial for marginally high blood pressure.

The gift keeps on giving.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Youngest home from school yet again tomorrow after more positive tests at his school. Close contacts of positive will have to isolate 14 days, the rest return after a day.

Happening every couple of weeks.

Middle son, deferred from uni after a level fiasco, rejected today from covid drug trial for marginally high blood pressure.

The gift keeps on giving.

You wouldn’t want him getting seriously ill from a Covid trial.

P.S. Which trial?

 

[roubaixtuesday]

You wouldn’t want him getting seriously ill from a Covid trial.

P.S. Which trial?

Somebody has to volunteer for trials, or we'll never get treatments. Risks IMV very low.

https://researchforyou.co.uk/healthy-male-volunteers/

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Somebody has to volunteer for trials, or we'll never get treatments. Risks IMV very low.

https://researchforyou.co.uk/healthy-male-volunteers/

They do but the volunteers need to meet the health risk profile of the trial. Your son didn’t. It’d be unethical to accept him in those circumstances.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

They do but the volunteers need to meet the health risk profile of the trial. Your son didn’t. It’d be unethical to accept him in those circumstances.

Oh, absolutely. Couldn't agree more.

 

[Unkraut]

[Me] I don't think anyone has actually died of covid-19 itself

Seriously???

The point I am making is this: autopsies carried out on patients who have died with covid show death only occurred in combination with other illnesses, usually life-threatening. The autopsies also show no discernable damage done to other organs apart from the respiratory system. It's still early days and this might change with new studies on more patients, but that is the position at the moment.

We will only know how many, if any, excess deaths there have been from the pandemic after the end of the year, when it will be possible to compare with previous years' averages. The expectation is that the figure will not have dramatically increased, meaning most if not all deaths with covid would have occurred during the year anyway, or can be compared with flu and other seasonal diseases. This view, I might add is not from YT pseudo-experts seeking attention but some in the mainstream of current research into the virus e.g. professor Streeck. It is not uncontroversial. It in no way plays down the seriousness of the disease, but it ought to modify the tendency to go into outright panic over it by regarding it as more lethal for the majority of the population than it is.

 

[srw]

autopsies carried out on patients who have died with covid show death only occurred in combination with other illnesses, usually life-threatening

Where is your evidence for this startling assertion?

It is very different from the usually reported claim that Covid 19 kills people who are otherwise healthy.

 

[C R]

Just got a text from the primary school our youngest attends. There's been a positive in his year group bubble, so all his year group are to stay home for 14 days.

 

[Bazzer]

All of one of my nephews year group has been sent home because of a positive test. This is the second time since term started.
He had only been back a few days after the previous mass sending home, when because he had a sniffle, school gave my sister 15 minutes notice to collect him and would not allow him back into school without a confirmed negative test result.
This is wrecking his education and as much as I admire the efforts of most teachers during normal times, there are some seem to be using the current difficulties to their own advantage.

 

[srw]

We will only know how many, if any, excess deaths there have been from the pandemic after the end of the year, when it will be possible to compare with previous years' averages.

That's wrong too. The number of deaths expected at any particular time of year is predictable. It would take a startlingly low death rate in the rest of the year for Covid not to have caused thousands of unexpected early deaths.