Surely like the original lockdown they will ask local gp's who has whatever is an issue.
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All uphill
Still rolling along
- Location
- Somerset
Our 27 year old son had a positive covid diagnosis on Monday. He has been in good general health and has been very careful over the last three months.
The reason for this post is to say that it has been forcibly brought home to us that his is a really nasty condition, and when it strikes your child it certainly makes the idea of foregoing the pub, holidays and wearing a mask seem like very small sacrifices.
I am normally very calm and tolerant but I'm not going to find it easy to read the more ridiculous libertarian comments on here.
The reason for this post is to say that it has been forcibly brought home to us that his is a really nasty condition, and when it strikes your child it certainly makes the idea of foregoing the pub, holidays and wearing a mask seem like very small sacrifices.
I am normally very calm and tolerant but I'm not going to find it easy to read the more ridiculous libertarian comments on here.
Ming the Merciless
There is no mercy
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This over 50’s thing seems strange. Surely if someone over 50 is particularly vulnerable they’d have been isolating already. Are they going to ask any obese people regardless of age to isolate?
Julia9054
Guru
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- Knaresborough
The news article @Accy cyclist quoted suggested that all over 50s would be given an individual risk rating potentially adding to the list of those that were originally shielding. What it didn't say was how the risk rating would be worked out and what you would be mandated to do with the information. So, I guess, those over 50s who were originally shielding due to being extremely clinically vulnerable would be expected to do so again for starters and then they would look at the others. So . . . potentially points for being male, BAME, obese, type 2 diabetes, high bp/cholesterol mild to moderate asthma/COPD etc. Since many over 50s are walking round with some of these conditions without knowing or having ever visited a GP, it is unworkable without giving all over 50s a medical.
So . . . journalistic scaremongering.
The Jogger
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- Spain
The sensible thing to do would be to offer early retirement to the over 60s initially, see the uptake and use this to keep the younger less vulnerable in jobs. Then look at options for the over 50s.
Julia9054
Guru
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- Knaresborough
You can offer it but if people have not saved for that to be their plan, it's not going to be possible.
The Jogger
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- Spain
In your opinion.
Financed by not having to pay out the unemployment benefits to the younger less vulnerable and paying the oap to those over 60 (the more vulnerable) that would choose to retire. After all it would also resolve the women forced into working past their initial retirement age, which was an injustice in itself.
classic33
Leg End Member
They asked GP's!
slowmotion
Quite dreadful
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- lost somewhere
…...or was it merely rectifying a grotesquely unjust sexist policy that discriminated against males....?
Accy cyclist
Legendary Member
- Location
- The hills of Accrington
Just listening to a jumped up busybody on the local radio phone in saying he asked a security guard in a supermarket to challenge a couple about not wearing masks. He said the guard refused to,saying he didn't have any power to stop and ask. The caller then said "so i went and challenged them,then they told me to keep my f..k..g nose out". I think i would've said the same to this idiot! 
The other day in a home fittings store while talking to a friend,a woman looked at me and shook her head,most likely because i wasn't wearing a mask."That's it,shake your head" i said quite loudly.
The other day in a home fittings store while talking to a friend,a woman looked at me and shook her head,most likely because i wasn't wearing a mask."That's it,shake your head" i said quite loudly.
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MntnMan62
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- Northern NJ
Just listening to a jumped up busybody on the local radio phone in saying he asked a security guard in a supermarket to challenge a couple about not wearing masks. He said the guard refused to,saying he didn't have any power to stop and ask. The caller then said "so i went and challenged them,but they told me to keep my f..k..g nose out". I think i would've said the same to this idiot! The other day in a home fittings store while talking to a friend,a woman looked at me and shook her head,most likely because i wasn't wearing a mask. "That's it,shake your head" i said quite loudly.
I refrain from calling people out unless I know for a fact that the place where I am makes it mandatory to wear a mask. I'll say something like "Excuse me but do you realize this store requires everyone to wear a mask?" If they get beligerant I'll look at them and say "You might want to collect your things and go pay for what you are buying because you won't be in this store for very long." But again, I wouldn't do that unless I know the store will do something about it. If I know they won't do anything about it, then I just keep my mouth shut. But if I see that person doing something that puts others in danger, I'll definitely open my mouth.
Accy cyclist
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- The hills of Accrington
I'm not 100% certain,but i don't think it's compulsory to wear masks in stores. I have to when visiting the dentist quite a lot at the moment,but i think that'll be because of medical reasons. Correct me if i'm wrong!
Ah,just seen your location. I suppose the rules are different where you live.
MntnMan62
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- Northern NJ
I'm not 100% certain,but i don't think it's compulsory to wear masks in stores. I have to when visiting the dentist quite a lot at the moment,but i think that'll be because of medical reasons. Correct me if i'm wrong!
I'm in the US. Everywhere is different. I'm in the NY Metro area so most places around me mandate wearing a mask in their establishments. It might even be a law. It's rare that I see someone without a mask. Any mask "denyers" are definitely in the minority in my neck of the woods. There is a reservoir with a paved walking path around it that lots of people like to utilize. It's about 1.75 miles or so. The entrance to the area usually has a police officer and there are signs that say masks are required. Personally I won't go anywhere that is so crowded like that. Some people may have a mask on when they enter the area but then later on you might see some of them with the mask not covering their nose or pulled down below their face altogether. My normal bike ride takes me by the entrance to the place. I don't wear a mask while riding but I also don't come near anyone. The riskiest situation I anticipate would be if I'm coming up on a slower biker. In that case I'll slow down well behind them, look over my shoulder to be sure no cars are coming and then dart out into the traffic lane, stand up and power past them like Alberto Contador.
classic33
Leg End Member
The requirement to wear one in stores/shops is there, but it's a legal requirement. This means that shop staff can't actually make you wear one, nor can store security.
MntnMan62
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- Northern NJ
It's a legal requirement yet the requirement cannot be enforced? That seems a bit dubious. A store is a private establishment. That means they set the rules for their stores. If there is a law on the books that says people in stores must wear masks, then the store likely has the legal obligation to enforce that rule. It's up to them and they are within their rights to remove the individual that is unwilling to abide by their rules. At least that's how it's done here.
