Can Weights Replace Bike Miles?

[black'n'yellow]

Weights can help quite markedly with endurance,

How?

 

[Rob3rt]

FFS, SQUATS, MAX YOUR PUMP, THATS HOW, HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO GO OVER THIS!

 

[Arsen Gere]

I reckon I could do with a bit more pure strength in my legs (which weights would give me but I haven't got time). Reason: I'm OK on average hills but struggle on the really brutal stuff so could do with a bit more leg power. However, I'd doubt whether weights would help a great deal with endurance, for which miles on the bike seem to be the only answer. I do a bit of running when I'm not riding and it doesn't seem to make much difference.

FWIW I think there is value in weight training. If you google around "Chris Carmichael" and "weight traiining" you will find a lot of references for cyclists and weights. Now if he trained Lance Armstrong to use weights and Alberto Salazar a world record holder in the marathon recommends using weights. I'm on the side of the coaches who train pro's rather than the cc members, no offence intended guys.

 

[Drago]

How?

By increasing the size of blood vessels and promoting the growth of new ones. This increases blood supply. Increased blood supply lowers the rate at which lactic acid can accumulate. Increased blood supply also improves the bodies capacity to transport oxygenated blood to the muscles.

 

[black'n'yellow]

FFS, SQUATS, MAX YOUR PUMP, THATS HOW, HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO GO OVER THIS!

awesome

 

[Drago]

Squats are bally good fun

 

[black'n'yellow]

By increasing the size of blood vessels and promoting the growth of new ones. This increases blood supply. Increased blood supply lowers the rate at which lactic acid can accumulate. Increased blood supply also improves the bodies capacity to transport oxygenated blood to the muscles.

Performance in endurance cycling is limited by your lactate threshold and your VO2 max - all of which can be trained on the bike and neither of which will improve by pushing weights.

FWIW I think there is value in weight training. If you google around "Chris Carmichael" and "weight traiining" you will find a lot of references for cyclists and weights.

Carmichael's studies used untrained and/or 'low fitness' individuals - so of course there would be improvements there. And if you seriously still think that 'weight training' is what did it for Armstrong, then you must have been living under a rock for the last few months.

 

[Rob3rt]

awesome

You have to shout it over the blaring thrash metal for max effect!

 

[Rob3rt]

Performance in endurance cycling is limited by your lactate threshold and your VO2 max - all of which can be trained on the bike and neither of which will improve by pushing weights.

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dcTfNmThUM

 

[Drago]

Performance in endurance cycling is limited by your lactate threshold and your VO2 max - all of which can be trained on the bike and neither of which will improve by pushing weights.



Carmichael's studies used untrained and/or 'low fitness' individuals - so of course there would be improvements there. And if you seriously still think that 'weight training' is what did it for Armstrong, then you must have been living under a rock for the last few months.

Indeed, and the improvement I'm bloody supply raises the lactate threshold by decreasing the rate at which it builds up. It takes longer to get to that point, ergo it increases endurance. By using a combination of both exercise and weights (rhe exact combination depending on your sport) you can achieve a far greater threshold that simply exercising away alone will ever bestow.

Funnily enough, the improvements in the intra muscular circulatory system also increase VO2 max.

A witches brew of rocket fuel is what did it fr Armstrong, but then the original question posed by the OP had nothing to do with him.

You won't find a proper body builder that doesn't take their cardio very seriously. Conversely, tu won't find many top flight athletes in any discipline that don't do some form of progressive resistance training.

 

[black'n'yellow]

Indeed, and the improvement I'm bloody supply raises the lactate threshold by decreasing the rate at which it builds up. It takes longer to get to that point, ergo it increases endurance. By using a combination of both exercise and weights (rhe exact combination depending on your sport) you can achieve a far greater threshold that simply exercising away alone will ever bestow.

Funnily enough, the improvements in the intra muscular circulatory system also increase VO2 max.

Dude - so I only need to go to the gym - I don't need to ride my bike..? Tell me how..??

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

By increasing the size of blood vessels and promoting the growth of new ones. This increases blood supply. Increased blood supply lowers the rate at which lactic acid can accumulate. Increased blood supply also improves the bodies capacity to transport oxygenated blood to the muscles.

http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/hill-reps.120108/post-2215002

 

[Drago]

Ah, knew it wouldn't take long for Mr Bean to drop in his two penneth. The man who couldn't lift a pie without having a hernia educating us about progressive resistance training.

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

Is assumption all you are left with?

 

[Drago]

It's not an assumption when I'm right.