boxers vs. martial arts
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Twenty Inch
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Mike Tyson turned down the opportunity to spar with Morihei Ueshiba. Got to tell you something.
Edited for stupidity - it was Shioda, not Ueshiba.
Edited for stupidity - it was Shioda, not Ueshiba.
Charlotte_C+ :-)
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Abitrary you really make me laugh!
Even though ive only been training in Shotokan karate for 4 years, what i do know is that no true humble martial artist of what ever style would ever want to put themselfs in the situation of testing out their "fighting skills" for real on purpose!, as thats just pure ego talking there, & being a complete idiot
This quote here explains the attiude you should have if you are a true & humble martial artist, compared with the bullsh*t you talk of!
"Refrain From Violent Behavior
Control
A trained fighter is a person with a fierce competitive spirit and great strength so it is unfair to use it against an untrained person. The karate-ka's spirit is unbeatable and must use his knowledge only for the sake of justice. A person of character can walk away from a fight because he is in control of his emotions and is at peace with himself. He does not have to test his abilities on the street. He wins without fighting and he will have no regrets because no one will be injured. Refraining from violent behavior is hard to explain to many Westerners because of their environment, or the attitude of winning tournaments, and they want to do it as quickly as possible which is against the principles of karate-do and dojo kun. It is therefore necessary for instructors to constantly remind the students of the importance of the dojo kun."
http://www.shotokankarate.ca/dojo kun.htm
Even though ive only been training in Shotokan karate for 4 years, what i do know is that no true humble martial artist of what ever style would ever want to put themselfs in the situation of testing out their "fighting skills" for real on purpose!, as thats just pure ego talking there, & being a complete idiot
This quote here explains the attiude you should have if you are a true & humble martial artist, compared with the bullsh*t you talk of!
"Refrain From Violent Behavior
Control
A trained fighter is a person with a fierce competitive spirit and great strength so it is unfair to use it against an untrained person. The karate-ka's spirit is unbeatable and must use his knowledge only for the sake of justice. A person of character can walk away from a fight because he is in control of his emotions and is at peace with himself. He does not have to test his abilities on the street. He wins without fighting and he will have no regrets because no one will be injured. Refraining from violent behavior is hard to explain to many Westerners because of their environment, or the attitude of winning tournaments, and they want to do it as quickly as possible which is against the principles of karate-do and dojo kun. It is therefore necessary for instructors to constantly remind the students of the importance of the dojo kun."
http://www.shotokankarate.ca/dojo kun.htm
cookiemonster
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A very similar sentiment exists in Thai Boxing and I can assume it occurs in all types of martial arts.
cookiemonster
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mikeitup said:Well according to Arbitrary any boxer can whoop your arse
lol
Zoiders
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Some of you are talking sense, some of you are still talking like kids in the playground
Fighting is stupid
Full stop
Strangely enough its the ones who have had to experience violence first hand that talk the most sense
Fighting is stupid
Full stop
Strangely enough its the ones who have had to experience violence first hand that talk the most sense
col
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Abitrary said:
I think your missing the point A,Bruce lee was a well known fighter before his movie times,they had interclub contests,to see whos style was more efective,it was these that brought about jeet kune do,of lees own design,in answer to inaffective techniques that he tried before.He was a very aggressive and fast fighter,there was video footage of him in a contest,where they needed to slow the film,to actually be able to see how many times he struck his apponent.He trained obsessively in all ways,to improve power,speed,and above all technique.The use of gloves wouldnt change the fact,that he would probably have hit an apponant several times,before they could have reacted to avoid the onslaught.His life was fighting technique,but he actually practiced them,and improved on them,to the point that he was a very effective fighter,that few could have bettered.His weapons were mainly for films,he didnt use them in fighting contests.But as training aids,to help coordination,and focus,speed,and again,the important one,technique.I seriously doubt,that as good as mcguigan was,he probably wouldnt have beaten him.
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mikeitup said:
Cos they are knobs who have watched a few boxing matches on the TV and Bruce Lee movies and think they are hard when they have had a drink. They also probably have small dicks. And fat burds.
(so in this there is little difference between them and all boxers and martial artists really 
Charlotte_C+ :-) said:Even though ive only been training in Shotokan karate for 4 years, what i do know is that no true humble martial artist of what ever style would ever want to put themselfs in the situation of testing out their "fighting skills" for real on purpose!, as thats just pure ego talking there, & being a complete idiot
This quote here explains the attiude you should have if you are a true & humble martial artist, compared with the bullsh*t you talk of!
At last. Some sense being talked by a martial artist. I agree totally that women should be allowed to do it, because it is more gentle than boxing, and is less likely to damage a womans fertility.
Any man considering his base motives and instincts for wanting to do a violent sport, will come to the conclusion that it is a desire to look hard. Only boxing can fulfill this. Why dont you get ladies boxing?
