boxers vs. martial arts

[Abitrary]

so what about teeny weeny little flyweight boxing chap (that I could probably swat with a newspaper) against great big muthu****a babyeating Judo gorilla?

Place your bets...

Noodley, as a fellow non-violent intellectual, you know I meant someone of a similar weight.

Even then it is still flawed. Lennox Lewis could take Bruce Lee. But then Prince Nazeem Hamed, the best british fighter in decades, used to spar and get the better of heavyweights.

hehehe, please don't anyone tell me that Bruce Lee would stand a chance against Nazeem hamed

 

[cookiemonster]

Bruce Lee would win by a country mile.

 

[Abitrary]

Although I agree with Charlotte that no martial artist would willingly use their skills in some pathetic brawl in the street.

You just want Charlotte to fancy you

 

[col]

Noodley, as a fellow non-violent intellectual, you know I meant someone of a similar weight.

Even then it is still flawed. Lennox Lewis could take Bruce Lee. But then Prince Nazeem Hamed, the best british fighter in decades, used to spar and get the better of heavyweights.

hehehe, please don't anyone tell me that Bruce Lee would stand a chance against Nazeem hamed

Again, i think the type of training Nazeem does,and the type lee did,lee would probably win.His training incorparated anything that was effective in stopping his apponent,so unless it was queensbury rules,im afraid i would plumb for lee again.

 

[kyuss]

You just want Charlotte to fancy you

We can dream...

 

[Noodley]

This thread reminds me of a mate from Uni days. He was a martial arts bloke, a huge bear of a man and a really good laugh. One night when we had consumed a few beers he was challenged to go along to the boxing club. So along he trots, only to find he was so big there was nobody else in his weight category. To cut a long story short, by default of nobody at a Scottish University being in his "weight" he ended up being selected to represent Scotland Universities team.

So we all piled along to watch Dave (for that was his name) in the Scotland v England University boxing. Dave was huge, muscular and towered over his opponent (and he had recently "kicked ass" in the British Uni "can't remember what martial art" championships). The bell rang and Dave skipped over to his shorter, tubbier English opponent (Dave was also English but representing Scottish Uni)...less than 30 seconds later Dave was on his back. Never to fight in a boxing ring again.

He said it was the hardest hit he had ever experienced.

 

[Abitrary]

Again, i think the type of training Nazeem does,and the type lee did,lee would probably win.His training incorparated anything that was effective in stopping his apponent,so unless it was queensbury rules,im afraid i would plumb for lee again.

Col, in a night out in a heavy drinking satellite town, who would you much rather have as a wing man. Prince Nazeem, or Bruce Lee.

 

[Noodley]

Noodley, as a fellow non-violent intellectual....

I am smart and hard.

 

[Abitrary]

He said it was the hardest hit he had ever experienced.

At last. Some proper anecdotal proof.

And exacly what I am trying to say. A professional boxer deals in KO.

A martial artist deals in avoiding boxers.

Why do you not see your average martial artist just stepping into the ring with a boxer... for money.

They should have a go if they think they're hard enough.

 

[col]

Col, in a night out in a heavy drinking satellite town, who would you much rather have as a wing man. Prince Nazeem, or Bruce Lee.

If i did go out then Lee,as i said,his size hid his power,and his speed was in reality,not films,was extraordinary.He was a brawler in his youth,and changed and trained in more and more effective ways ,as he grew up.And even applied science to his methods of dealing with an attacker in the streets.If i had the choice,then lee would get it,but Nazeem would be a good choice too.

 

[Noodley]

If i did go out then Lee,as i said,his size hid his power,and his speed was in reality,not films,was extraordinary.He was a brawler in his youth,and changed and trained in more and more effective ways ,as he grew up.And even applied science to his methods of dealing with an attacker in the streets.If i had the choice,then lee would get it,but Nazeem would be a good choice too.

You should go out with me gran. A good fighter, and she'd set you up with some young thing as well.

 

[cookiemonster]

At last. Some proper anecdotal proof.

And exacly what I am trying to say. A professional boxer deals in KO.

A martial artist deals in avoiding boxers.

Why do you not see your average martial artist just stepping into the ring with a boxer... for money.

They should have a go if they think they're hard enough.

One example doesn't make a case to trash all of the martial art especially when you have never taken part in either boxing or martial arts.

Thai Boxers also deal in KO's. I have knocked out and have been knocked out.

 

[Noodley]

One example doesn't make a case to trash all of the martial art especially when you have never taken part in either boxing or martial arts.

Thai Boxers also deal in KO's. I have knocked out and have been knocked out.

But Dave was HUGE and a British champion...he had scrapped with the best (I think he got as far as Commonwelath Games). He always maintained that the one punch he experienced in that one bout was the worst thing he had ever ever experienced. He also said if it had been "his rules" (the rules of his martial art) he would have kicked the other guys arse without being touched.

 

[Cycling Naturalist]

If i did go out then Lee,as i said,his size hid his power,and his speed was in reality,not films,was extraordinary.He was a brawler in his youth,and changed and trained in more and more effective ways ,as he grew up.And even applied science to his methods of dealing with an attacker in the streets.If i had the choice,then lee would get it,but Nazeem would be a good choice too.

In a bar room brawl the victory would go to the person with the hardest first punch or the ability to get someone down quickly, eg. with a good kick to the inside knee. I suspect the boxer would have the edge on punching speed and power, but the MA fighter might be a better alround bet once the Queensbury rules were forgotten.

 

[Foghat]

Ultimate respect to that boxer going in the ring with someone at least 2 stone heavier and about 5 inches taller than him, with correspondingly longer arms and legs.

Like this then:


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPrTDsBCM10


As for kickboxers, anyone going into the ring knowing they run the risk of THIS has significant balls. (Warning - clip is gruesome).