Benefits of wearing a helmet

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Although I didn't injure my head on that occasion it really made me aware of how vulnerable one's bonce is in these situations and I've worn one religiously ever since.

I've heard of people that have fallen over and died when hitting their head whilst walking.

And various others with nasty deep cuts/ambulance trips whilst walking.

After seeing all this - I wore a helmet religiously whilst walking ever since.




I'm not going to argue for or against (afterall, I wear one), my point is the flawed logic in this/these kinds of statement.
 

StuartG

slower but no further
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I'm not going to argue for or against (afterall, I wear one), my point is the flawed logic in this/these kinds of statement.
Flawed logic?

I think the point being made is that we generally have a threshold of risk we are willing to undertake. Hence the diatribes against over zealous H&S seeking to protect us from things we don't want to be protected from.

The very act of cycling (with or without helmet) is acceptance of a travel risk greater than that of using the train, bus - indeed anything with the exception of a motor-bike - and some of us willingly accept even that.

So the decision about one's personal safety in cycling dwarfs any possible extra benefit of a helmet. But any extra benefit must be a good thing - yes? Well there are lots of things in cycling that will bring greater safety benefit than helmets - I would suggest having your bike regulary serviced (what percentage do that?), adjusting the brakes weekly, buying a mirror, not using earphones, buying and reading Cyclecraft, doing a Bikeability course ...

I do some of those which I perceive give me a better cost/benefit than achievable with a helmet. And without the downsides of helmet wearing - for me that is maximising the feeling of vulnerability on the road making some safer choices than if I was feeling less vulnerable (risk compensation). For instance going down hill at 30mph feels really scary. If the road is slightly dodgy I brake it. I notice others feel less scared and will hare down 10mph or more faster. The consequences in an accident of the greater speed will not be compensated by helmet protection. Which is why we need to be very careful about balancing the benefits/risks of helmet wearing. Which have not been really evaluated in a trustworthy way.

So for me I perceive wearing a helmet offers less benefit than, say, wearing one when running - where 100% of the population agree with me as opposed to cyling where only 30% of the UK CycleChat community agree with me - though that would be 70%+ if I was Dutch or Danish.

So it has to be a personal choice much based on perception. Which is why we disagree and those disagreements cannot be rationally be worked out. It also means accepting that the other side might be right and a willingness to keep re-evaluating your choices.
 

Maz

Guru
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You seriously don't believe all that Religous gooble dee gook? I'm looking forward to that day when some of the greatest minds at the CERN institute crack how the world started.

Then it's a trip down to the local church, telling the good Vicar that he is wrong, and taking back my donation of £1.24 from the church roof fund. I may or may not keep the book of Genesis by the toilet to wipe my arse with.
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Your choice to be religious or not, but there's no need to be disrespectful.
 

StuartG

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Your choice to be religious or not, but there's no need to be disrespectful.
Disrespect of religion is surely the duty of the rational mind. However respect for the KJV should be the duty of any one appreciative of one of the world's greatest literary works - fiction or non-fiction
 
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Tinuts

Tinuts

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Disrespect of religion is surely the duty of the rational mind. However respect for the KJV should be the duty of any one appreciative of one of the world's greatest literary works - fiction or non-fiction
One of the world's greatest literary works? Based on what criteria exactly?
Perhaps if you'd said one of the world's greatest edits..........
 

StuartG

slower but no further
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SE London
One of the world's greatest literary works? Based on what criteria exactly?
Sharing in that sort of consensus that has a special place for Shakespeare's plays or Jane Austen's Sense & Sensibility.

No book has delivered so much folk lore well remembered for its ringing phrases. While its accuracy as a translation has eroded - the power of the language has not. AFAIK o other work by a committee has ever elevated itself into even be considered a literary masterpiece.

If you are not convinced - try reading it. If you want a concise overview there can be no better than "The Unauthorised Version" by Robin Lane-Fox, Cambridge historian, FT's gardening correspondent and father of Martha. His opening position is "I don't believe in God but I do believe in the Bible" which may give you a flavour of his approach in its importance as a historical document but not a history book ...
 
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Tinuts

Tinuts

Wham Bam Helmet Cam
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London, UK.
Sharing in that sort of consensus that has a special place for Shakespeare's plays or Jane Austen's Sense & Sensibility.

No book has delivered so much folk lore well remembered for its ringing phrases. While its accuracy as a translation has eroded - the power of the language has not. AFAIK o other work by a committee has ever elevated itself into even be considered a literary masterpiece.

If you are not convinced - try reading it. If you want a concise overview there can be no better than "The Unauthorised Version" by Robin Lane-Fox, Cambridge historian, FT's gardening correspondent and father of Martha. His opening position is "I don't believe in God but I do believe in the Bible" which may give you a flavour of his approach in its importance as a historical document but not a history book ...
Whilst I wouldn't place it anywhere near Shakespeare or Jane Austen on a literary level I can't deny its importance as a historical document.
Won't go any further on this as it may well deliver a huge boot stage left to the OP! Oh, and I have read much of it!
 

StuartG

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Won't go any further on this as it may well deliver a huge boot stage left to the OP!
Oh dear - ploy detected
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Dan B

Disengaged member
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But James Cracknell said to wear one. ;-)
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What, a Bible? I suppose it might help, but it would be rather heavy on the old bonce.

Maybe an ebook edition?
 

david k

Hi
Location
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I'd just set of on my ride home yesterday evening when I come across a cyclist down here:

http://maps.google.c...1,0.011287&z=17

Male cyclist lying in the road, two women in attendance, one of whom is on the phone to the Ambulance Service. No cars (other than parked) in evidence and one of the women said she'd been cleaning her windows when she heard a crash and saw that said cyclist had fallen off into the road. Not sure why, though, so it's not immediately clear if another vehicle was involved in the incident.

The cyclist is obviously a bit dazed and is lying with his head on his backpack and generally keeping still. He's obviously in some pain but what is most apparent is a nasty straight gash to his head which has cut in to skull bone depth. Quite unpleasant for the poor chap although he's more concerned about the pain in his shoulder (on the same side as the gash). The location of the injury points to him having bashed his head (probably against the pavement edge judging by the size and shape of it) in a place where, had he been wearing a helmet, he would quite plainly have been protected.

Anyway, I'm happy to say that a paramedic arrived within five minutes and quickly decided that, as he had knocked himself out momentarily, an ambulance would be needed to take him off to A&E for further examination (Hammersmith is very close). I manage to establish that they would take his bicycle with him (I know that's one thing that would worry me in such a situation) and so left just as the ambulance was approaching (again arriving within five mins of the paramedic - most impressive seeing as this was Friday rush hour).

I'm sure he was well looked after at the Hospital (and may well decide that a helmet is a wise future investment) but I couldn't help but be reminded of the time when I first bought a helmet - after my first accident in London many years ago. Although I didn't injure my head on that occasion it really made me aware of how vulnerable one's bonce is in these situations and I've worn one religiously ever since. Indeed, it has saved me from injury to my head on a number of occasions so I'm certainly thankful that I made that decision relatively early in my London commuting experience.

Interestingly, while the man was down another, female, cyclist stopped to see if any further assistance was needed. She remarked on the fact that he wasn't wearing a helmet. One of the women present jokingly said to her "But you're not wearing a helmet" to which she replied that she didn't, even though she, herself, had fallen off in the past too.

So, fellow forumites, what is it that makes some of us decide to wear a helmet and why do others not. To me, it's a clear cut argument for self preservation but, as that's my decision alone, I would never advocate the compulsory wearing of head protection for cyclists. Just wondering what others think about this.

this post could do with merging or being posted on a similar thread in general cycling
 

zexel

Veteran
Location
Cambs
Quote: "Chance of dying from intentional self-harm: 1 in 9,380"

These odds are rapidly going down the more I read these helmet 'discussions'!
 

buddha

Veteran
I literally had a head on collision yesterday at 38mph!
Although it was only with a wasp, or some similar sized insect.

Thank the lordy I was wearing my lid :thumbsup::biggrin:
 
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