Bad Name

[MissTillyFlop]

Changing topic slightly, does anyone else now have Bon Jovi going round their head?

 

[Noodley]

Changing topic slightly, does anyone else now have Bon Jovi going round their head?

Nope, but they were in my shower room this morning and took bloody ages...and there was no hot water left - bloody bouffant hair!

 

[mickle]

Changing topic slightly, does anyone else now have Bon Jovi going round their head?

+1 I'm not very happy about it actually.

 

[twobiker]

It is not something which I would do, however the issue in the OP was the assumption that the behaviour of one cyclist then opens up the right for others to be open to abuse and danger because of the assumption all drivers in the line would be pissed off.

The cyclist could have just as easily been cycling courteously and considerately, and there could still have been a tailback...it is the speed which is the issue not the cause of the speed. As we have already established he was doing nothing illegal, nothing indicates he was cycling dangerously..he was merely cycling slowly and using a mobile phone. There is part of me which thinks the OP is a driver who is pissed off he cannot use his mobile whilst driving and is mightly pissed off at this.

As the OP , I should say that I cycle 200mls a week just for the exercise, I use a car to get to work as it is a 66mile round trip and if I need to phone I just pull over and use it, if I want to drive slowly I let other vehicles go past and if I want to cycle slowly I do the same , maybe we just have different ideas on what constitutes courteous behaviour with other road users.

 

[MissTillyFlop]

Nope, but they were in my shower room this morning and took bloody ages...and there was no hot water left - bloody bouffant hair!

Oh dear, just spat tea on my work computer...

 

[John the Monkey]

My own experience is similar to JtM's that when motorists are asked to highlight which part of the law and/or HC they are referring to they make up bollocks.

I don't know whether it's made up, or just not remembered properly. But given that some use that incorrect knowledge to justify close passes, shouting obscenities out of their windows &c, it's worrying.

 

[twobiker]

OK then picture this. If it had been some one of elderly years cycling at their normal pace should they also pull over not to inconvenience the traffic behind ?

Yes, of course, and probably being from a different generation they would.

 

[twobiker]

Changing topic slightly, does anyone else now have Bon Jovi going round their head?

Living on a Prayer, great driving song for an empty road.

 

[Noodley]

I don't know whether it's made up, or just not remembered properly. But given that some use that incorrect knowledge to justify close passes, shouting obscenities out of their windows &c, it's worrying.

The last idiots I encountered who shouted at me whilst buzzing past turned out to be community wardens...they didn't like me shouting back so stopped. And then tried to tell me the law...which they had made up. So they then tried "a local byelaw"...again made up. So I tried the "perhaps you would like to explain your actions to your boss" route and one of them is no longer in employment as a result of their behaviour.

 

[Noodley]

Living on a Prayer, great driving song for an empty road.

travelling at a speed you think you should be allowed to without being impeded by other road users....

 

[Origamist]

Top of the Kingsbridge hill coming out of Totnes, through the trees just before the turn off for Blackemore levels, cyclist was opposite Camps farm, was riding towards Totnes.

I know it well, but to clarify you mean the cyclist was going down the steepish Kingbridge Hill towards Totnes? If so, that road is narrow (no central lane markings), it's a 30mph limit from memory and I can understand why a cyclist, regardless of whether he was using a phone would not want to be passed when descending there (there are quite a few tight bends and you need to cautious). That said, I would not be comfortable descending with one hand on the drops and the other fiddling with a phone.

I used to commute from Plympton to Totnes, many years ago.

 

[apollo179]

It is not something which I would do, however the issue in the OP was the assumption that the behaviour of one cyclist then opens up the right for others to be open to abuse and danger because of the assumption all drivers in the line would be pissed off.

The cyclist could have just as easily been cycling courteously and considerately, and there could still have been a tailback...it is the speed which is the issue not the cause of the speed. As we have already established he was doing nothing illegal, nothing indicates he was cycling dangerously..he was merely cycling slowly and using a mobile phone. There is part of me which thinks the OP is a driver who is pissed off he cannot use his mobile whilst driving and is mightly pissed off at this.

Ok.
So you dont dispute that the cyclist is behaving in a manner lacking courtesy and consideration.
You dont dispute that this sort of behaviour just pees people off.
Your only objection is the assumption that the behaviour of one cyclist then opens up the right for others to be open to abuse and danger.
Can you clarify what "right for others to be open to abuse and danger" you are referring to.

 

[4F]

Yes, of course, and probably being from a different generation they would.

Sorry I thought this was an A road rather than a country lane with no passing places ?

 

[4F]

Ok.
So you dont dispute that the cyclist is behaving in a manner lacking courtesy and consideration.
You dont dispute that this sort of behaviour just pees people off.
Your only objection is the assumption that the behaviour of one cyclist then opens up the right for others to be open to abuse and danger.
Can you clarify what "right for others to be open to abuse and danger" you are referring to.

What speed would the cyclist in question have to be going to be deemed to be riding in a considerate manner and should it matter whether they were in lycra or not ?

 

[twobiker]

I know it well, but to clarify you mean the cyclist was going down the steepish Kingbridge Hill towards Totnes? If so, that road is narrow (no central lane markings), it's a 40mph limit from memory and I can understand why a cyclist, regardless of whether he was using a phone would not want to be passed when descending there (there are quite a few tight bends and you need to cautious). That said, I would not be comfortable descending with one hand on the drops and the other fiddling with a phone.

I used to commute from Plymton to Totnes, many years ago.

No he was at the top at the part the cows cross from the farm to the field opposite , it would not be pleasant going down that hill with a line of cars behind you, its not pleasant going down with nothing behind you. if you fall you will go into the opposite up lane, which is used for passing.