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[Origamist]

The simple fact you are missing/avoiding is that by pulling over all the traffic could have gone past, in your way of thinking a child on stabilizers is quite entitled to sit in front of a queue of cars as some kind of right, we shall have to disagree on courtesy towards other road users I think.

On which road and at what location did this happen. I grew up cycling in the South Hams.

 

[John the Monkey]

Regardless of their usual speed, they were doing something obvious and apparently unrelated to the journey which gave the appearance of distracting them and making them travel "unnecessarily slowly" which the OP said was frustrating.

I'm wary of giving this argument credence - to many it's unnecessary for a cyclist to be on the road when there's a cycle path nearby, to ride in primary past pinch points, and so forth. If there's one thing my dealings with angry drivers have demonstrated consistently, it's that they work to a version of the Highway code that I've never seen, that's fairly skewed against cyclists.

 

[Norm]

I'm wary of giving this argument credence - to many it's unnecessary for a cyclist to be on the road when there's a cycle path nearby, to ride in primary past pinch points, and so forth. If there's one thing my dealings with angry drivers have demonstrated consistently, it's that they work to a version of the Highway code that I've never seen, that's fairly skewed against cyclists.

So, you don't want to give credence to the fundamental issue of a 16-page thread and set up your own straw men (which only appear strong to you because it is held up by a skeleton of irony).

Allow me to point out a few of the more fundamental flaws in your post.

• The argument which you don't wish to give credence is the very purpose of this thread.
• Rather than any argument, I am merely trying to strip the emotions and blinkers by completely removing any reference to any modes of transport from the discussion.
• This thread was started by someone who said nothing about the cyclist being in the wrong place, avoiding a cycle path, riding in primary or so forth, these are entirely of your creation.
• You are saying that a group of people consistently do something, whilst others are saying that there should be no tarring all with the same brush
• There was no mention of the highway code or the legalities, just courtesy to other people.

 

[Red Light]

I can across to stuck up sods riding two a breast yesterday and would not yield even when hooted (I was not driving). Cyclist want recognition on the roads the way they are going about it is just pissing in the face of other roads users – and don't go on about the way they treat us – two wrongs......ect

Sitting two abreast when you did that were you?

Edit: Sorry, just realised I've come in at the beginning of a very long thread!

 

[Smokin Joe]

Anyone who uses a mobile phone while driving, motorcycling, cycling or walking across the road should have the said phone rammed up their arse.

Pay attention to what you're doing and don't be an accident waiting to happen.

 

[Noodley]

Anyone who uses a mobile phone while driving, motorcycling, cycling or walking across the road should have the said phone rammed up their arse.

Pay attention to what you're doing and don't be an accident waiting to happen.

Thanks for that Jimmy Saville...

 

[Smokin Joe]

Thanks for that Jimmy Saville...

No problem, Jeremy Clarkson...

 

[threebikesmcginty]

Thanks for that Jimmy Saville...

Now then, now then!

 

[apollo179]

The speed is the issue, as if he had been on his phone and cycling fast there would not be a 'problem' in the circumstances descibed in the OP as he would not have been 'holding up' the cars.

Wrong.
Are you disputing whether cycling one handed, on the drops,slowly, and dialing on mobile phone causing a tailback of peed off motorists is lacking courtesy and consideration ?

 

[mickle]

Anyone who uses a mobile phone while ..... cycling or walking across the road should have the said phone rammed up their arse.

Are there any other legal activities for which you'd recommend anal rape as a punishment? Just askin.

 

[twobiker]

On which road and at what location did this happen. I grew up cycling in the South Hams.

Top of the Kingsbridge hill coming out of Totnes, through the trees just before the turn off for Blackemore levels, cyclist was opposite Camps farm, was riding towards Totnes.

 

[John the Monkey]

So, you don't want to give credence to the fundamental issue of a 16-page thread and set up your own straw men (which only appear strong to you because it is held up by a skeleton of irony).

Ouch. I thought I'd addressed that earlier?

Allow me to point out a few of the more fundamental flaws in your post.

• The argument which you don't wish to give credence is the very purpose of this thread.
• Rather than any argument, I am merely trying to strip the emotions and blinkers by completely removing any reference to any modes of transport from the discussion.
• This thread was started by someone who said nothing about the cyclist being in the wrong place, avoiding a cycle path, riding in primary or so forth, these are entirely of your creation.
• You are saying that a group of people consistently do something, whilst others are saying that there should be no tarring all with the same brush
• There was no mention of the highway code or the legalities, just courtesy to other people.

1) I'm addressing this specific point; "they were doing something obvious and apparently unrelated to the journey which gave the appearance of distracting them and making them travel "unnecessarily slowly""

2) Understood.

3) Again, I think this is a logical argument to offer, if the problem is understood to be the prevention of (motor) traffic from reaching a faster speed. The points are offered in response to your "unnecessarily slowly" statement.

4) Related to my points on angry motorists? My personal experienceis that when they mention the law, or the Highway Code, their recollection of it was incorrect. Flashing lights are illegal, use of cycle lanes is compulsory, bikes must always give way to cars, the usual.

5) Understood. Once again, I think the other points follow logically from the ideas presented by the op, specifically the idea that a legal (if unwise) behaviour gives all members of a group "a bad name" .

Taking the op's post at face value, it appears that the drivers here did the right thing when faced with someone who should have been paying more attention to the road. So good on them.

 

[twobiker]

Are there any other legal activities for which you'd recommend anal rape as a punishment? Just askin.

I bet the reception would be rubbish.

 

[Noodley]

Wrong.
Are you disputing whether cycling one handed, on the drops,slowly, and dialing on mobile phone causing a tailback of peed off motorists is lacking courtesy and consideration ?

It is not something which I would do, however the issue in the OP was the assumption that the behaviour of one cyclist then opens up the right for others to be open to abuse and danger because of the assumption all drivers in the line would be pissed off.

The cyclist could have just as easily been cycling courteously and considerately, and there could still have been a tailback...it is the speed which is the issue not the cause of the speed. As we have already established he was doing nothing illegal, nothing indicates he was cycling dangerously..he was merely cycling slowly and using a mobile phone. There is part of me which thinks the OP is a driver who is pissed off he cannot use his mobile whilst driving and is mightly pissed off at this.

 

[Noodley]

My own experience is similar to JtM's that when motorists are asked to highlight which part of the law and/or HC they are referring to they make up bollocks.