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My only concern in this is that whether it's legal or not, is it really the wisest idea to take phone call whilst in charge of any vehicle?

No phone call is that important and if it was, you'd probably fall off in shock.

What about consulting the SatNav which many cars now have and which I have on my phone for cycling? Or checking a txt message to see if its something urgent that needs stopping now to deal with or can wait till the next stop?
 
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twobiker

twobiker

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Location
South Hams Devon
You mean the top of Kinsbridge Hill near where it joins the Western Bypass? Can you show me precisely where on google maps as I'm struggling to see where/how the indicident you described took place (I don't know where the cows cross!)

Kingsbridge Hill does not have central lane markings, unless its changed.
go up the hill past the Plymouth/Follaton road on the A381 , then you get into a section of two lane road and a 40mph limit go past the turning for Cornworthy and under the trees, this section is now 60mph, at the top there is a junction on either side the one on the right leads towards Avonwick keep on going about thirty yards and you are there, there are lane markings all the way up the hill now.
 

John the Monkey

Frivolous Cyclist
Location
Crewe
Is reading a book while cycling legal, using a laptop? Why not make the most of your boring commute and catch up with work on the way? It's perfectly legal!

I've yet to see a cyclist doing either of those[1]. Believe it or not, I've seen motorists doing both[2] on more than one occasion.

[1] Although on the Whitworth Park path, anything is possible, I'll keep an eye out.
[2] The books are usually maps, checklists &c Delivery drivers are particularly bad for the latter. I have seen two people reading what appeared to be "proper" books though, both of those were driving through the village centre of Cheadle (on separate occasions), at around 5pm.
 
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twobiker

twobiker

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Location
South Hams Devon
Thanks for the clarification of the national road network. However getting back to the point, if the traffic was unable to pass it would have made no difference if this fast cyclist with all the gear and who was in your opinion riding "slowly", was riding at the speed you feel he should have been given his attire.

Are you sure it was not you you was in the first car and it was you who was so "selfishly" held up by this very rude cyclist ?
The need to clarify the road network to you is obviously the point, if you are unaware of the types of roads how are you safe to be on them," it wasn't you by any chance was it"? and the traffic could have got passed if he had just ,"shock", "horror" stopped.
 

Origamist

Legendary Member
go up the hill past the Plymouth/Follaton road on the A381 , then you get into a section of two lane road and a 40mph limit go past the turning for Cornworthy and under the trees, this section is now 60mph, at the top there is a junction on either side the one on the right leads towards Avonwick keep on going about thirty yards and you are there, there are lane markings all the way up the hill now.

Wait there, so it did not happen on Kingsbridge Hill but actually along the A381 (aka the Western Bypass if it's nr Totnes)! You might want to give more helpful info...

What's the name/road no of the junction? Is it the A381, Green Lane junction - that has a farm at the top.
 
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twobiker

twobiker

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Location
South Hams Devon
What about consulting the SatNav which many cars now have and which I have on my phone for cycling? Or checking a txt message to see if its something urgent that needs stopping now to deal with or can wait till the next stop?

This is where the law is so funny , some one got done for eating a mars bar and yet you can look at a screen for directions and its normally in your eye line, and yet what about smoking?.
 

4F

Active member of Helmets Are Sh*t Lobby
Location
Suffolk.
The need to clarify the road network to you is obviously the point, if you are unaware of the types of roads how are you safe to be on them," it wasn't you by any chance was it"? and the traffic could have got passed if he had just ,"shock", "horror" stopped.

I would suggest that you main gripe in all of this is that the cyclist was "using his phone" rather than anything else.

The A road is clearly not a single track road so the only reason that these vehicles were unable to pass was because it was not safe to do so and would have made little difference whether the cyclist was riding slowly whilst holding his phone in his hand or if he was going fast without it.
 

Origamist

Legendary Member
I would suggest that you main gripe in all of this is that the cyclist was "using his phone" rather than anything else.

The A road is clearly not a single track road so the only reason that these vehicles was unable to pass was because it was not safe to do so and would have made little difference whether the cyclist was riding slowly whilst holding his phone in his hand or if he was going fast without it.


Given the shifting nature of the locations posted by Twobiker, I am starting (perhaps belatedly) to question the veracity of this tale.
 

John the Monkey

Frivolous Cyclist
Location
Crewe
This is where the law is so funny , some one got done for eating a mars bar and yet you can look at a screen for directions and its normally in your eye line, and yet what about smoking?.
Nothing in law, but;

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Safe driving and riding needs concentration.

Avoid distractions when driving or riding such as

  • loud music (this may mask other sounds)
  • trying to read maps
  • inserting a cassette or CD or tuning a radio
  • arguing with your passengers or other road users
  • eating and drinking
  • smoking
(Highway Code).

didn't the old codes have a clause specifically advising people not to try and light pipes?
 

apollo179

Well-Known Member
I supposed I could have got peed off at the motorist yesterday who was dithering whether to park, turn off, pull over or whatever but I just waited till they had sorted themselves out and then carried on. If the time is that important perhaps you should have set off a bit earlier.

What do you mean by this ?
What are you accusing me of ?
This kind of out of the blue statement has me confused.
 
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