Are we being forced to go electric?
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On another thread I mention my wife's insurance has gone from £140 to £200 this year, nothing has changed in her circumstances, so went on moneysupermarket & got some quotes, got ti back down to £147 but thought I'd best check that the excesses etc. were the same & found this clause in her existing.
"Automated vehicles - this section is designed to let you know what your policy will cover you for in the event of a claim if
your car is an automated vehicle and is in autonomous mode including but not limited to ALKS.
Accidents caused by your automated vehicle are covered when it is driving itself in accordance with AEVA 2018 on a road
or other public place in Great Britain."
I have no idea what ALKS is, but I wonder if EV owners know not to use the Automation stuff aboard, I know ICE also have some of it, but it's more prolific in EV's I think.
"Automated vehicles - this section is designed to let you know what your policy will cover you for in the event of a claim if
your car is an automated vehicle and is in autonomous mode including but not limited to ALKS.
Accidents caused by your automated vehicle are covered when it is driving itself in accordance with AEVA 2018 on a road
or other public place in Great Britain."
I have no idea what ALKS is, but I wonder if EV owners know not to use the Automation stuff aboard, I know ICE also have some of it, but it's more prolific in EV's I think.
Tesla did it in 2015.
View: https://youtu.be/uMM0lRfX6YI
Although still not released yet. Other people have created similar with a raspberry Pi
ALKS is automatic lane keeping service (what my ID4 has). This clause is saying that the insurance will cover you if your car us using autonomous or ALKS modes. So no reason not to use it (although with the ID4 you have to keep your eye on what it is doing - it's light years behind Tesla).
classic33
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Now do it somewhere other than inside, in "laboratory conditions" at say a public charging point.
The legal requirements are very different.
Hard to see what the legal requirements are for putting a plug in a socket. The electricity doesn't leak all over the floor if it doesn't connect properly. Worst case is that it doesn't charge.
The snake charger didn't prove popular with customers for home purchase but it's still key to Musk's plan for a tesla fleet of self-driving cars. They have to be able to hook themselves up to the mains.
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View: https://youtu.be/0oLeKRNsSn4
Thought this was quite a reasonable test, granted a very expensive top of the range EV but he did at least get a matching van to tow, it would be interesting if a lower level EV manufacturer offered a Journo fleet car in the SUV range with a towbar to tow a more regular van.
The point about the recharge was thought provoking.
Alex321
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It was but to be fair they missed some detail out.
For example, towing a Caravan in an ICE car uses about 25% more petrol or diesel than not towing. So the EV is only 25% less efficient. Of course, it can't go as far as a massive diesel, so the issue is heightened. And yes, you can't easily fuel your EV with the caravan attached. Do many people holiday by themselves though? I'd have thought it would normally be a couple, in which case is it that much of an issue for one person to stay in the caravan and make a cup of tea whilst the other puts the car on charge and gets a nice snack to eat in the Caravan while U wait?
Ideally you want an aerodynamic caravan to tow, and for range to improve. Which it will and is.
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Have to watch it again but I thought the EV was more than 25% less efficient if that's the correct terminology, but yes our diesel certainly used more fuel when towing, but I do think that the recharging is a HUGE issue.
Not only would I have not be happy leaving our caravan in a carpark even with the wife whilst I then went to get charged up, but what would the insurance company think if it got stolen or damaged at that point?
Also that is assuming there is somewhere to unhitch & leave the van as you would not always be charging up n the motorway network, as an aside does it cost more on the motorway like it does for fuel?
Alex321
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I wouldn't call it HUGE, but certainly significant.
Not a problem if you put the hitchlock on I would have thought.
Yes, much more.
fossyant
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Does this Automatic lane system/driving thinybob stop or prevent these fancy cars crossing/driving in cycle lanes ? Didn't think so, after a Tesla blocked the cycle lane, I rode round him through the Tesla dealership's car park. Oh, and seeing the rather large gouge in the side of the 72 plate's side, neither do the driver aids work. Still tootled off leaving them stuck in traffic ! 
FishFright
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Because of gas prices not lack of generating capacity
They only work if you switch them on. Some people don't like them.
lazybloke
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I thought two coal-fired power stations were put into warm standby recently because of if poor generating capacity (not ab absolute shortage, but issues with maintenance of other power stations coinciding with low renewables output)?
Suppose gas prices might have been a factor too
Updated: more generating capacity is needed. Also more energy storage, not only at Nat Grid level, but also more locally such as at EV charging stations.
How much more nuclear, i wonder?
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